Blown Engine

[randijo]

Originally Posted by bmussatti

Randijo, make sure you properly break-in the new engine. I would also change the oil at about 1,000 miles.

Why does the oil need to be changed at 1000 miles?

We generally follow the maintenance schedule from Porsche which for our year says to change the oil at 2 years or 20,000 miles. Are we making a mistake?

Originally Posted by randijo

Why does the oil need to be changed at 1000 miles?

We generally follow the maintenance schedule from Porsche which for our year says to change the oil at 2 years or 20,000 miles. Are we making a mistake?

Do you own or lease? If you own, I would change the oil at 1,000 miles. Just my opinion. Worth the $150.

If you liked the engine changing experience, just change oil every 20,000 miles. You should change the oil between 7-10K miles or at least once per year prior to winter storage.

Did you follow proper engine break-in with your first motor?

[randijo]

Originally Posted by bmussatti

Do you own or lease? If you own, I would change the oil at 1,000 miles. Just my opinion. Worth the $150.

If you liked the engine changing experience, just change oil every 20,000 miles. You should change the oil between 7-10K miles or at least once per year prior to winter storage.

Did you follow proper engine break-in with your first motor?

No lease. We own it.
We followed proper break in procedure on the first engine and we are braking in the new one the same way. We keep the RPMs under 4000, no full throttle starts, and try to vary the speed for the first 2000 miles.
The old engine only had 12000 miles on it after a year and a half. According to the maintenance schedule it wasn't yet due for an oil change. Do you really think changing the oil once a year will prevent engine failure?

Do you really think changing the oil once a year will prevent engine failure?[/QUOTE]

It wouldnt hurt to do it.

Originally Posted by randijo

No lease. We own it.
We followed proper break in procedure on the first engine and we are braking in the new one the same way. We keep the RPMs under 4000, no full throttle starts, and try to vary the speed for the first 2000 miles.
The old engine only had 12000 miles on it after a year and a half. According to the maintenance schedule it wasn't yet due for an oil change. Do you really think changing the oil once a year will prevent engine failure?

Randijo, good job on doing the proper engine break-in. Not an easy thing to do. Requires great patience! Must be even harder with the second engine, partly because you know what the car is capable of doing, and are more accomplished at driving it.

You should have changed the oil prior to last winter's storage. Did this cause your engine failure? I doubt it.

Let say you are going to keep the car 10 years. And you change the oil yearly. Will this "prevent engine failure"? In a nut-shell...yes. Could something else be the cause (IMS)...sure. If you changed the oil once in 10 years...would the engine fail...my money says yes. What if you change twice? How about 3 times? What is the level of risk you are comfortable with?

Changing oil is cheap insurance. Even cheaper for the many great DIY'ers on this Forum.

Don't forget, Randijo, the oil in our cars does about 40% lubrication and 60% cooling.

My two cents on a 1000 mile oil change, excellent suggestion. What I was taught at AFST (still have my id card) Association of Fiat Service Technicians, schools was to do this when breaking in an engine. The main reason is the tolerances of the engine are being used for the first time. That's bound to make more metal micro shavings or other contaminants in higher amounts. The motorcycles of my youth suggested the same thing and I'm sure Porsche does too for brand new engines. Think about it, if that wasn't going on then you would need no break in at all.

Better luck with the next powerplant and to the rest of you guys, may the Fix It Again Tony jokes begin...

PS Still have a fresh 124 sport spyder with 53,000 on the clock.

[95_dually]

I have a 1998 Boxster with 105,000 miles on it. I changed the oil every 5000 miles. I do not trust the manufacturers recommended 15,000 mile oil change. I had a catastophic engine failure. It sucked one of the intake valves on the number 2 cylinder. I was quite pleased it was not the IMS. I live in nortern California and the dealer is Niello Porsche in Rocklin, Ca. They are awesome.

I cannot wait to get it back. I believe there is an obvious problem with the intermediate shaft and a recall should have been done a long time ago, but this is old news.

How is it possible to have a car for 10 years and only have 30,000 to 40,000 miles on it? I put 10,000 miles on it in 4 months. I could not get out of it. I found every excuse to drive it. I love that car. I WILL ALWAYS OWN A PORSCHE. There is no other car like it. (IMHO)

This is the first time for me to post. So I have stated good and bad. I like to read everyone else's posts. Keep it up.

[Paul]

Originally Posted by xusmnimij

My two cents on a 1000 mile oil change, excellent suggestion. What I was taught at AFST (still have my id card) Association of Fiat Service Technicians, schools was to do this when breaking in an engine. The main reason is the tolerances of the engine are being used for the first time. That's bound to make more metal micro shavings or other contaminants in higher amounts. The motorcycles of my youth suggested the same thing and I'm sure Porsche does too for brand new engines. Think about it, if that wasn't going on then you would need no break in at all.

Better luck with the next powerplant and to the rest of you guys, may the Fix It Again Tony jokes begin...

PS Still have a fresh 124 sport spyder with 53,000 on the clock.

I've owned many Fiats, raced Fiats, and once worked for a Fiat dealer as an independent mechanic....

Failure in Automotive Technology

F'ing Italians Attempt at Transportation

are the ones I remember.

Originally Posted by Paul

I've owned many Fiats, raced Fiats, and once worked for a Fiat dealer as an independent mechanic....

Failure in Automotive Technology

F'ing Italians Attempt at Transportation

are the ones I remember.

They can say what they wish, the 128 was the first car produced with a tranverse engine & transmission combo, copied the next year by VW rabbit, now used everywhere. When, I was a lot younger and the dealership was at it's glory, I tuned my Spyder every week, MG's Triumphs of the time were no match for a 124, I still enjoy driving it even if the manual steering is a #$%&^* when parking. Fiat had twin overhead cam engines and shim & bucket valve setups, far ahead of the competition of the time. Even the sedans came standard with Pirellis or Michelins before most people appreciated the difference. The American metal of that time, a la Maverick, Mustang II, comet, were no match in a corner for even a lowly 128 sedan.