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Old 10-21-2007, 09:16 AM   #1
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Is this thread a debate about a new Boxster vs a 7 year old turbo? Sorry if I'm wrong for being a newbie, but isn't this thread about "ordering a new Boxster"?

Besides, did the OP say anything about taking his car to the track? Maybe he is looking for the perfect all around car. I know that is what I'm looking for. And why would anyone pay $70K for a 7 year old used car. That seems silly to me. IMHO

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ok fair enough, sorry. Just giving my .02.

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Are those 996 lights and a turbo bumper cover on your 986?
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Old 10-21-2007, 01:40 PM   #2
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Thank you to everyone for the replies.

Randall, what's the difference between stage 1 and stage 2 redlines? And does Porsche have language in the warranty that limits their liability in the event the car has these redlines in its history?

About leftovers, I was going to go down that road. However my search (which includes a 300 mile radius of dealers around my home), has uncovered something many dealers are reluctant to admit. All the 07 left-overs I've found have an in-service date of 7/31/2007. The in-service date is when the warranty starts, so if you buy a leftover, you may not get the complete warranty. One dealer stated that Porsche forces the in-service date on them - I don't know if that's true or not, but it's something to look out for if you're in the market for a leftover.

So far, the best price I've negotiated on a leftover was $985 under invoice. But when I did some analysis on the depreciation, lost warranty, etc. it turns out that's not a very good deal (to me anyway). But I wanted to put that out there so anyone looking for a leftover has a good baseline to start negotiating with.

I've found dealers with open slots for Jan, Feb, Mar, and Apr. My reason for trying to find the latest date that I can place an order for each of those slots, is so I can increase my negotiating leverage with the dealer. I will find out those dates, and when I do, I'll let everyone know to help out others looking to order.
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Old 10-21-2007, 01:51 PM   #3
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I don't know about $60k for a new boxster.

So far the preliminary quotes I've received for an 08 Boxster with:
Bose
18" S Wheels
Windstop
Heated Seats
Climate Control
PCM

Have all been under 50K.... not much under, but I haven't even really begun to negotiate with them yet.
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Old 10-21-2007, 01:54 PM   #4
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Bill Mussatti posted above that the new boxsters have more stages.

However, the older ones have two to my knowledge. The first is just redlining the car without it shutting down half the cylinders to keep the engine from blowing.

The second is where it shuts down half the engine to keep you from blowing it up.

To my knowledge, Porsche has no warranty or statements saying that the car may be delivered with one or more redlines on the motor.

However, if I ever buy another Porsche, the car will be put on a PST Tool and I will not buy the car if I see the motor has been redlined repeatedly.

Finding a brand new boxster with a couple of hundred miles on it that has been demo'd hard and has dozens or over a hundred redlines registered on the computer, which can never be removed by the way, tells me that car has been abusively driven in the very first miles of the motor's life and I should walk away.

This may just be me being very cautious and overly zealous. I just know that Pcar motors ain't cheap and I'm not paying for someone else's foolish driving habits.
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Old 10-21-2007, 02:01 PM   #5
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You might be able to negotiate a little. But with a custom ordered car, you really are between a rock and a hard place with negotiating. If you were buying an older '07, or '06 new from them and clearing out there inventory then you could negotiate.
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Old 10-21-2007, 02:39 PM   #6
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You might be able to negotiate a little. But with a custom ordered car, you really are between a rock and a hard place with negotiating. If you were buying an older '07, or '06 new from them and clearing out there inventory then you could negotiate.
I would respectfully disagree with my fellow Forum Member, Rick3000, here. I ordered my car in August of 2005. My requested delivery was late March 2006. I was able to negotiate a 10% discount.
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That's fine, in my experience though. It is harder to get a discount on custom ordered cars.
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I have to agree with bmussati, the quotes I'm getting on a custom ordered car are all about 4k below MSRP.... but that still leaves another 3k above invoice that I plan to chip away at
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That's fine, in my experience though. It is harder to get a discount on custom ordered cars.
Yes, very true!
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:20 PM   #10
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I've found dealers with open slots for Jan, Feb, Mar, and Apr. My reason for trying to find the latest date that I can place an order for each of those slots, is so I can increase my negotiating leverage with the dealer. I will find out those dates, and when I do, I'll let everyone know to help out others looking to order.
Configuration is locked 4-6 weeks prior to 1st of the month of the build. I'd speculate that you would get best deal on Jan or Feb builds due to timing. As Spring approaches more people start ordering
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:34 PM   #11
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I would just buy one of the limited edition S Boxes out now.....probably your only chance at finding a truly unique Boxster and one that might actually hold its value and be something worth collecting....

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