Ordering A New Boxster

[yellowboxster01]

I don't know why one would pay $60K for a brand new boxster when you can get a 996 Turbo with roughly 20K miles for $10K more. My dad picked up an 01 Turbo with 10K miles for $70K from the largest Porsche dealer in NA, Champion. Just my opinion.

Originally Posted by yellowboxster01

I don't know why one would pay $60K for a brand new boxster when you can get a 996 Turbo with roughly 20K miles for $10K more. My dad picked up an 01 Turbo with 10K miles for $70K from the largest Porsche dealer in NA, Champion. Just my opinion.

Let's see....

1) A warranty
2) 19,999 less miles
3) $10,000 less
4) Convertible
5) Mid engine
6) I know I did a proper engine break-in procedure
7) Seven years of updated Porsche technology- safety and performance

[yellowboxster01]

Originally Posted by bmussatti

Let's see....

1) A warranty
2) 19,999 less miles
3) $10,000 less
4) Convertible
5) Mid engine
6) I know I did a proper engine break-in procedure
7) Seven years of updated Porsche technology- safety and performance

300 extra hp I guess cancels that out for me. Call me crazy but, to each their own. BTW, you can get a Turbo Cab, maybe not for 10K extra but, I'm a fan of hardtops. I got what I could afford, if I had my pick it would be a hardtop 993. Warranty doesn't mean sheit to me, I've had my car for almost a year trouble free, so that's just like insurance to me...meaningless. But, if you guys are about that, rock on.

A $60K Boxster, I'd never buy. A $25K Boxster, sure. Turbo would woop your ass around the track but, go on thinking the Boxster is superior to the Turbo.

Warrenty's are for suckers, imo.

[danr1707]

Originally Posted by yellowboxster01

A $60K Boxster, I'd never buy. A $25K Boxster, sure. Turbo would woop your ass around the track but, go on thinking the Boxster is superior to the Turbo.

Warrenty's are for suckers, imo.

Is this thread a debate about a new Boxster vs a 7 year old turbo? Sorry if I'm wrong for being a newbie, but isn't this thread about "ordering a new Boxster"?

Besides, did the OP say anything about taking his car to the track? Maybe he is looking for the perfect all around car. I know that is what I'm looking for. And why would anyone pay $70K for a 7 year old used car. That seems silly to me. IMHO

-Dan

[RandallNeighbour]

I, for one, am just a tad jealous that someone gets to walk into a dealership and sit down with a salesman and say, "I WANT TO ORDER A PORSCHE WITH . . ."

That's the kind of thing this 12 year old boy trapped in a 45 year old's body dreams of most nights.

[choeglund]

You'll save a lot of $ if you find one on a dealer lot that matches your criteria and you can break it in while driving it home. If you have time, you can go through inventory of every dealer in the usa on porsche.com/usa. Or, you can work with a local dealer and they can do a national search using your exact criteria. You might get a few extras and you might pay shipping but you'll save overall versus ordering. Use dealer search by state on porsche.com/usa and then click into each dealer to see their inventory.

If you decide to order, biggest thing is to secure your build slot with the dealer. Slots are allocated by month and then assigned a specific complete date approx 1 month in advance. Customer-ordered cars get production priority and so they are usually completed within the first week or so of the month built. After that, 4-6 weeks for delivery.

[yellowboxster01]

Originally Posted by danr1707

Is this thread a debate about a new Boxster vs a 7 year old turbo? Sorry if I'm wrong for being a newbie, but isn't this thread about "ordering a new Boxster"?

Besides, did the OP say anything about taking his car to the track? Maybe he is looking for the perfect all around car. I know that is what I'm looking for. And why would anyone pay $70K for a 7 year old used car. That seems silly to me. IMHO

-Dan

ok fair enough, sorry. Just giving my .02.

Originally Posted by choeglund

Are those 996 lights and a turbo bumper cover on your 986?

yes and fenders also.

[baseball]

Thank you to everyone for the replies.

Randall, what's the difference between stage 1 and stage 2 redlines? And does Porsche have language in the warranty that limits their liability in the event the car has these redlines in its history?

About leftovers, I was going to go down that road. However my search (which includes a 300 mile radius of dealers around my home), has uncovered something many dealers are reluctant to admit. All the 07 left-overs I've found have an in-service date of 7/31/2007. The in-service date is when the warranty starts, so if you buy a leftover, you may not get the complete warranty. One dealer stated that Porsche forces the in-service date on them - I don't know if that's true or not, but it's something to look out for if you're in the market for a leftover.

So far, the best price I've negotiated on a leftover was $985 under invoice. But when I did some analysis on the depreciation, lost warranty, etc. it turns out that's not a very good deal (to me anyway). But I wanted to put that out there so anyone looking for a leftover has a good baseline to start negotiating with.

I've found dealers with open slots for Jan, Feb, Mar, and Apr. My reason for trying to find the latest date that I can place an order for each of those slots, is so I can increase my negotiating leverage with the dealer. I will find out those dates, and when I do, I'll let everyone know to help out others looking to order.

[baseball]

I don't know about $60k for a new boxster.

So far the preliminary quotes I've received for an 08 Boxster with:
Bose
18" S Wheels
Windstop
Heated Seats
Climate Control
PCM

Have all been under 50K.... not much under, but I haven't even really begun to negotiate with them yet.

[RandallNeighbour]

Bill Mussatti posted above that the new boxsters have more stages.

However, the older ones have two to my knowledge. The first is just redlining the car without it shutting down half the cylinders to keep the engine from blowing.

The second is where it shuts down half the engine to keep you from blowing it up.

To my knowledge, Porsche has no warranty or statements saying that the car may be delivered with one or more redlines on the motor.

However, if I ever buy another Porsche, the car will be put on a PST Tool and I will not buy the car if I see the motor has been redlined repeatedly.

Finding a brand new boxster with a couple of hundred miles on it that has been demo'd hard and has dozens or over a hundred redlines registered on the computer, which can never be removed by the way, tells me that car has been abusively driven in the very first miles of the motor's life and I should walk away.

This may just be me being very cautious and overly zealous. I just know that Pcar motors ain't cheap and I'm not paying for someone else's foolish driving habits.

[choeglund]

Originally Posted by baseball

I've found dealers with open slots for Jan, Feb, Mar, and Apr. My reason for trying to find the latest date that I can place an order for each of those slots, is so I can increase my negotiating leverage with the dealer. I will find out those dates, and when I do, I'll let everyone know to help out others looking to order.

Configuration is locked 4-6 weeks prior to 1st of the month of the build. I'd speculate that you would get best deal on Jan or Feb builds due to timing. As Spring approaches more people start ordering

Originally Posted by yellowboxster01

300 extra hp I guess cancels that out for me.

Yellowboxster, are you sure about your numbers? A 2008 987S has 295 HP. A 2001 911 Turbo had about 415. That's a difference of approx 120 HP. Big difference, but not 300.

Great car. Congrats to your father.

[RandallNeighbour]

Baseball, one thing I will do when buying a new Pcar is having a tech hook up a PST tool to it BEFORE I SIGN THE PAPERS to recored the number of stage one and stage two redlines the engine has on it.

This way, if the engine blows, Porsche can't tell you they're not paying for it because you redlined it.

If the engine doesn't blow, it's a good way to record a baseline so you know how you and anyone else has driven the car.

If it does have a bunch of stage two redlines, you can refuse to take delivery of the car. One overly zealous drive in your brand new car by a salesman or tech or a porter pegging it repeatedly is really bad for a brand new engine, but they could care less because it's not their car.

Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour

Baseball, one thing I will do when buying a new Pcar is having a tech hook up a PST tool to it BEFORE I SIGN THE PAPERS to recored the number of stage one and stage two redlines the engine has on it.

This way, if the engine blows, Porsche can't tell you they're not paying for it because you redlined it.

If the engine doesn't blow, it's a good way to record a baseline so you know how you and anyone else has driven the car.

If it does have a bunch of stage two redlines, you can refuse to take delivery of the car. One overly zealous drive in your brand new car by a salesman or tech or a porter pegging it repeatedly is really bad for a brand new engine, but they could care less because it's not their car.

Hey Randall, just a side note, on the 987 (not sure about the 986) there are actually 6 (six) ranges on the DME that record ignitions for that range. I don't know what they all mean. I wish someone could tell me.

At my last oil change, just last week (I love that new oil "feeling"!), I asked for a print-out from my DME. The tech gave it to me and reviewed it with me. He said everything was fine.

[choeglund]

Originally Posted by yellowboxster01

I don't know why one would pay $60K for a brand new boxster when you can get a 996 Turbo with roughly 20K miles for $10K more. My dad picked up an 01 Turbo with 10K miles for $70K from the largest Porsche dealer in NA, Champion. Just my opinion.

Are those 996 lights and a turbo bumper cover on your 986?