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	| Would buy S again |      | 52 | 83.87% |  
	| Would buy base model if had to do over |      | 5 | 8.06% |  
	| It makes no difference (don't know) |      | 5 | 8.06% |  
	
 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		|  06-09-2007, 02:30 AM | #1 |  
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				Owned both, just as much fun in a 201HP base as the 245 S
			 
 
			Maybe even more fun because it was more the driver and his skill rather than the car and its HP. 
 Not that the S isn't a better car.
 
 I totalled the base and bought an S with the insurance proceeds. I'd rather have the '99 base back in preference to the '01 S because then there would be one more P-car on the road.
 
 And the grin was as big and the complements the same.
 
 Besides, I was less tempted to get into trouble with less HP to pull me out of the situation.
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		|  06-09-2007, 04:27 AM | #2 |  
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			I've driven pretty much all of them, as I have a bunch of local Porsche buds here in the tri-state area that let me drive their cars: 2.5L Boxster with 201hp, 2.7L with 217hp (I own one), 3.2L with 250hp, 3.2L with 280hp(987S), 3.4L with 295hp (Cayman S), Base 997 Carrera Cab with 325hp, 997 Carrera S Cab with 355hp, and 996 Carrera GT3 with 381(hp). 
Not counting any of the 996 and 997 cars, I honestly can say that from my experience, there really is not that much difference that I felt between driving my car (an 01 base 2.7 with 217hp) and the 986S with 250hp.  I actually could hardly feel a difference in pull during acceleration.  The 280hp Boxster S I drove, while a nice improvement in design inside and out from the 986, still didn't wow me with the power delivery.  The difference I really did feel was between driving my car and the 295hp Cayman S.  That drive really impressed me, and it felt like the car, in gears 1-4, had a real nice kick in the pants to it.  I think the best value at Porsche today is the new 3.4L Boxster S.  Top down, great looks, fast car, with all the new gadgets.
 
The Cayman S I drove felt almost just as quick as the base Carrera I drove, but of course, slower feeling than the GT3.
 
Back to the question though- do I regret not getting the S from the get go?  Yes.  I happened to first test drive a base, and felt it gave me enough grins, so I decided to buy it right there on impulse.  Do I enjoy my car any less because of that decision?  No.  It's still a heck of a fun car to drive, and I'm gonna keep it for a while.  Plus, it's nice not having a car payment when NYC parking costs me $560 per month.    
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		|  06-09-2007, 09:25 AM | #3 |  
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			Before I bought my 2000 986 S several years ago, I drove the base and didn't feel the excitement.  I was a little disappointed with the lack of get up and go.  In fact, I kind of felt like it wasn't the kind of car I was looking for.  I love the feeling of torque and started to look elsewhere.  When I drove the S I couldn't wipe the grin off my face.  While not the torque monster of a vette, it did feel like a different car than the base.  I have since discovered and love the great handling characteristics of the car and now have a greater appreciation for the base.  But the S to me is the way to go.
		 
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		|  06-09-2007, 10:30 AM | #4 |  
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			I suspect part of the equation is whether one buys used or new.  The difference in cost between the base and the S for a new car is pretty significant - but I think it diminishes over time. 
I bought my 2000 S a month or so ago after having driven a friend's 2000 base model, and it feels significantly sportier to me than his did.  Of course, I drove his like it was his, and I drive mine like it's, well, mine.      
That said, I have no regrets over shelling out what looked to me to be the extra couple thou it took to get the S model of that age over the base model.
		
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		|  06-09-2007, 07:37 PM | #5 |  
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			I bought a 986 S and have no regrets.  I test drove SEVERAL to make sure I was getting the one that I really wanted.
 1998 Silver 2.5
 2001 Lapis 2.7
 2001 Meridian Metallic 3.2
 2002 Black 3.2
 2003 Black 2.7
 2006 Silver 2.7
 2001 Silver 3.2 (bought)
 2002 Black 3.2 (very clean but priced too high)
 
 Funny - I couldn't find much difference at first between the power going from Base to S, but once I got back into a base, I could feel the power deficit.  Make any sense?  I think the 986 vs. 987 debate is a different matter entirely - apple & oranges.  But all advice  appears to be that if the cash is there to be spent, the newer car is the one to get.  I wasn't sure about the S vs. Base until I started asking around.  I spoke with service techs at 4 dealerships in IL & 1 in MI and 2 Porsche specialty shops - all said that the S was the way to go for a stock car & if I wanted to make upgrades (I think they were thinking of REVO software.)
 
 Now as for the apples vs oranges debate... I may be the only person on the planet who (even though I LOVE the look & quality of the 987) would not choose a 987 base over a 986 S.  I just wasn't impressed with the power delivery (yes, I know the HP is almost identical.)  I never said I was sane!  Price was undoubtedly weighing in on my decision - there was about a $14K difference in the pre-owned 987 & my 986 S.  Now if Loeber just "happened" to have a spare Arctic Silver 987 S that they needed to give away... my pops would be finding that 986 S in his driveway as a Father's Day gift!
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		|  06-10-2007, 05:00 AM | #6 |  
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			This seems like a self evident question.  
 Why are there so many posts about increasing HP?  If base and "S" owners all would like to increase HP then why wouldn't anyone want to start with more HP to begin with by buying an "S"?
 
 It simply a matter of budget not whether someone likes the Base versus "S".  The "S" starts you off with more HP and a better braking sysytem (from the 911) and a better handling suspension setup.  Who wouldn't prefer that?
 
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		|  06-10-2007, 01:39 PM | #7 |  
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			I bought the 2007 Boxster S and have no regrets.  I didn't want to make the same mistake with the Boxster as I did with my 2005 BMW Z4;  bought the 2.5L while I could have bought the 3.0L.    
 2 years later and at a great big hit on depreciated value, the Z4 was traded in for the larger engine Boxster (maybe that is not a bad thing).  Either way, If I would have bought the larger engine (3.0L) in the Z4 originally, I probably would of held on to the Z4 for a little longer and received more value of my purchase.
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		|  06-12-2007, 07:46 AM | #8 |  
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			I too bought a 2007 Boxster S and did not test drive or consider the Base. I have always bought the highest performance version of any sports car when possible so there would be no regrets. I have never modded a car to increase power, primarily because I figured I would never see a return on that investment at time of resale (perhaps even a loss) and I typically do not keep any cars past 3 years due to boredom. Had I not been able to afford the S I likely would have bought a used 1996/97 993 Turbo or a 993 Cab, something I considered briefly before coming to my senses and buying the new Box. Always wanted a 993.....repair costs scared me away.
		 
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