SRT4 vs. Boxster S

[FrayAdjacent]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

If you get beaten in your Boxster at the track or autocross by a Neon SR whatever then its a sports car.
Of course this will never happen in a front wheel drive Civic so no need to even bring up the coffee can in the back.


I would love to know what these guys below drive...
The spikey hair set in Northern New Jersey won't be caught dead in anything that doesn't hail from Bavaria (BMW). Note the pic of the sail boat in the back...classy.

Dude, I've seen a Civic hatchback that would hang with a Dodge Viper. It was THAT fast. (turbocharged engine swap with nitrous) If it could HANDLE worth a darn... then yeah, you could probably be beat by it in an AX.

Does that a sports car make?


Not in my humble opinion.



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[drburton]

So how fast is that neon?? What's the 0-60 time, is it faster than the new 2007 3.4L Boxster S?

They just look kinda silly to me, but props to them if they are that fast. I would support the notion that going fast in a straight line doesn't define a sports car.

[rick3000]

Why would you spend the cash to upgrade a neon to outdo a porsche?
You would spend less cash just buying a porsche.

[porsche986spyder]

Originally Posted by rick3000

Why would you spend the cash to upgrade a neon to outdo a porsche?
You would spend less cash just buying a porsche.

Yes. But the SRT-4 comes already done. I.E. Turbo and Sport Suspension. Stock it does not have to be modified any more.

[Adam]

[QUOTE=drburton]So how fast is that neon?? What's the 0-60 time, is it faster than the new 2007 3.4L Boxster S?
[QUOTE]

Stock for stock they are comparable to the 00--04 boxster S. The boxster probably has the edge in the upper 100mph+ speed realm due to a lower drag coefficient. A 3.4L boxster S would walk away from the Neon with relative ease.

[NickCats]

Alright all you brilliant auto aficionados, I want to pick your brain on which car is faster from 0-100 ( I won’t say why I’m asking because I don’t want to get yelled at ) :

My 1999 Boxster or a 2003 Dodge Neon SRT-4 ?

Neon

2939 lbs
215 hp
245 ft-lbs TQ

0-60 5.6 sec
¼ mi 14.1 sec

Boxster

2822 lbs
201 hp
181 ft-lbs TQ

0-60 6.0 sec
¼ mi 14.5 sec

What do you guys think ?

Nick

[djomlas]

thats it, were all selling these pos german cars and getting neons, group buy anyone?

on paper it shows its faster, so its only a rational thing to get, or heck, get 2 while u at it, one for daily, and one for 'show' hahaha

Originally Posted by NickCats

Alright all you brilliant auto aficionados, I want to pick your brain on which car is faster from 0-100 ( I won’t say why I’m asking because I don’t want to get yelled at ) :

My 1999 Boxster or a 2003 Dodge Neon SRT-4 ?

Neon

2939 lbs
215 hp
245 ft-lbs TQ

0-60 5.6 sec
¼ mi 14.1 sec

Boxster

2822 lbs
201 hp
181 ft-lbs TQ

0-60 6.0 sec
¼ mi 14.5 sec

What do you guys think ?

Nick

[Wonko The Sane]

Wow.... I can't believe the attitude on this forum.

I take it that none of you that are criticizing people who own neons and civics come from the real world... Must be nice to have that two-seat roadster Porsche bought by mommy and daddy to look down upon the unwashed masses from.

This one of the things that I don't like about owning a Porsche, it seems like a lot of "enthusiasts" have attitudes like this. I just don't see this kind of attitude in the other clubs/forums I'm involved in.

It's also very evident from this thread that a lot of the people criticizing the cars have never actaully attended a performance driving event in their lives, relying on the status symbol of their Boxster to be all the performance they need. Yes, both a Neon or a Civic can be faster than your Box, either in a straight line or around a track.

And of course, the come-back will be "but nothing else is a Porsche..." Just admit that a car as a status symbol is rather important in your life. It's okay, we won't hold it against you and you'll feel better about being honest with yourself. So far, I haven't really seen anything super-special about the Boxster as an overall vehicle, so I hope the marque is worth more than the performance.

If you wish to pick on a car, deal with specific reasons why that vehicle is inferior to your choice. "It's still a neon!" is not a slam, regardless of how it's meant. "it's still a Neon" talking about the ACR or the SRT/4 means that "Dodge was able to take JUST a Neon and created a factory-warrantied car that would keep up with a Porsche in most instances, and beat it in others." If you don't like them because the interior is cheaper, say so, but don't try to claim the whole car sucks just because "it's still a neon."

And to answer the inevitable, no, I've never owned a Neon or a Civic.. I just race with a lot of people who do.

[djomlas]

so then when did your parents buy you your porsche?

Originally Posted by Wonko The Sane

Wow.... I can't believe the attitude on this forum.

I take it that none of you that are criticizing people who own neons and civics come from the real world... Must be nice to have that two-seat roadster Porsche bought by mommy and daddy to look down upon the unwashed masses from.

This one of the things that I don't like about owning a Porsche, it seems like a lot of "enthusiasts" have attitudes like this. I just don't see this kind of attitude in the other clubs/forums I'm involved in.

It's also very evident from this thread that a lot of the people criticizing the cars have never actaully attended a performance driving event in their lives, relying on the status symbol of their Boxster to be all the performance they need. Yes, both a Neon or a Civic can be faster than your Box, either in a straight line or around a track.

And of course, the come-back will be "but nothing else is a Porsche..." Just admit that a car as a status symbol is rather important in your life. It's okay, we won't hold it against you and you'll feel better about being honest with yourself. So far, I haven't really seen anything super-special about the Boxster as an overall vehicle, so I hope the marque is worth more than the performance.

If you wish to pick on a car, deal with specific reasons why that vehicle is inferior to your choice. "It's still a neon!" is not a slam, regardless of how it's meant. "it's still a Neon" talking about the ACR or the SRT/4 means that "Dodge was able to take JUST a Neon and created a factory-warrantied car that would keep up with a Porsche in most instances, and beat it in others." If you don't like them because the interior is cheaper, say so, but don't try to claim the whole car sucks just because "it's still a neon."

And to answer the inevitable, no, I've never owned a Neon or a Civic.. I just race with a lot of people who do.

Originally Posted by Wonko The Sane

Wow.... I can't believe the attitude on this forum.

I take it that none of you that are criticizing people who own neons and civics come from the real world... Must be nice to have that two-seat roadster Porsche bought by mommy and daddy to look down upon the unwashed masses from.

This one of the things that I don't like about owning a Porsche, it seems like a lot of "enthusiasts" have attitudes like this. I just don't see this kind of attitude in the other clubs/forums I'm involved in.

It's also very evident from this thread that a lot of the people criticizing the cars have never actaully attended a performance driving event in their lives, relying on the status symbol of their Boxster to be all the performance they need. Yes, both a Neon or a Civic can be faster than your Box, either in a straight line or around a track.

And of course, the come-back will be "but nothing else is a Porsche..." Just admit that a car as a status symbol is rather important in your life. It's okay, we won't hold it against you and you'll feel better about being honest with yourself. So far, I haven't really seen anything super-special about the Boxster as an overall vehicle, so I hope the marque is worth more than the performance.

If you wish to pick on a car, deal with specific reasons why that vehicle is inferior to your choice. "It's still a neon!" is not a slam, regardless of how it's meant. "it's still a Neon" talking about the ACR or the SRT/4 means that "Dodge was able to take JUST a Neon and created a factory-warrantied car that would keep up with a Porsche in most instances, and beat it in others." If you don't like them because the interior is cheaper, say so, but don't try to claim the whole car sucks just because "it's still a neon."

And to answer the inevitable, no, I've never owned a Neon or a Civic.. I just race with a lot of people who do.

I tend to agree. A car is just a piece of metal, pick the one that makes you smile the most! A sports car is a vehicle you can take to the track in a pinch. Thus the dodge is a sports car. Snobs usually don't know the difference between a side draft carb or a down draft or what the specific benefits of OHC or what a hemi head are. That's why they have to rely on pedigree. But I digress....


A kid in a turbo neon (I heard his BOV earlier) tried to race me, so I made his day. He pulled on me from about 50-80. He got about a car length on me and I shut it down, hey who says I'm irresponsible! I gave him the thumbs up, and he have me a peace sign. Everything was cool. I'm sure he was quite happy with the kill, and went to bed with a smile on his face, and later told all his friends the next day how he destroyed a boxster. For me, I settled my curiosity and went to bed happy also. Love the box. Anyways, I respect much more the gearhead than the pretentious ignoramus no matter what he's driving.