I realize this is not normal or even ok, I was just explaining the situation to see if anyone had any ideas on where to begin the search. I bought the car from my mother since after a week at the dealer and many different high dollar excuses they finally ended up with telling her it needed a new transmission and it would be $10k just for parts. Just in case this really is the problem, I have already located a 40k miles trans for $2500. I will not be taking the car back to the dealer, ever. They dont seem very competent in diagnosing problems, initially they told her it was a motor oil leak they could fix for $2k. After she explained to me what lead up to her taking it in to the shop, I had told her it sounded like a trans problem that she in turn asked the dealer about and thats when they said the trans was gone. She asked what they would give her for it on a trade in for a new boxster and they said $5k. So I bought the car she has loved and babied for the last 8 years and she is driving a new MBZ. I was going through all her paperwork when I found out about the ATF change with no filter (in Nov.), thats just another thing that makes me think the trans might be OK and they just didnt really check anything. I will start taking things apart in the next few weeks and post what I find. And no, I have never worked on a porsche before but do have a mechanical background. How difficult could it be!