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Old 12-07-2006, 07:50 PM   #38
cartagena
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I said spent several years in Cuba and gave you one example of something that happened one winter. I did not say I only spent one winter there. I am sure though you realised that.

Anyway, a lot of what you said is true. You forgot though that Cubans never protest Fidel in Havana, never have strikes, never commit acts of terror against Fidel, never publish a secret newspaper, never vandalise anything, never organise themselves in Cuba or Miami, in fact, they never do just about anything. Even the French showed more cojones when taken over.

Imagine if a US president told the people "hey, by the way, I am a commie and from now on there is no more constitution because we are all now working for the Soviets!" He would not live more than 5 minutes no matter who he had on his side because the people would put an end to him one way or another. But 47 years? To die in his boots?

And one more thing, I have fired a handgun in Cuba. If a tourist can get a gun do not tell me there are no guns. The secret policeman who was suppose to be spying on the tourist was much more interested in going "deep undercover" and spent many a night drinking with me. More than once we went out shooting at trees and things after finishing off a bottle or two of Havana Club. Fidel only needs one bullet and someone with balls. I have seen the bullet...but....the balls?


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Originally Posted by Pilot2519j
Where do I begin after reading your post? Obviously you lack total historical data about Cuba which in this post you have gone from years to one winter in Cuba. So much for your veracity. It could be just ignorance or benign neglect that you are not aware of the facts. In 1961 the Playa of Giron invasion was a wake up call for the exiles when the US backed out of supplying air cover for the invaders. That is a fact and that the great President Kennedy like any good democrat put his tail between his legs and let the Cubans dry with no air cover. Adding insult to injury the US made a secret pact with the Russians of not letting any subversion or invasion of any sort to topple Castro in exchange for having the missiles withdrawn from Cuba. This promise or pact was kept until the USSR imploded. Fidel has protected himself from any demonstration by his comite de defensa del barrio. The function of the comites as trained by the East German Secret Police (Stassi) is to put away any dissident to Isla de Pino for as long as it takes to remold his political outlook. Naturally throw in an execution here and there that always works. There are no weapons that the population of Cuba has at their hands to start shooting since they were rounded up much before your stay in the winter of 1999. Geography works against any kind of subversion since Cuba is an island that is well guarded by the Castro regime. The only ones that get in are the drug runners from Colombia, Panama, Venezuela, Mexico as a layover to continue to the US with their cocaine and illegal drugs that are peddled here. I don't expect anything from anyone since most latin countries made great wealths by having Fidel there. Colombia got a slice of the sugar quota, Jamaica, Santo Domingo, Mexico , Puerto Rico all have benifited greatly by the tourism that Cuba used to get. There is no urgency or sympathy to assist any Cuban by any of those countries since they all profit by the situation staying the same. Cuba had the highest standard of living up to 1960 and was the envy of most South American countries. As far as your repartee about Cubans in general is naive. You might have been years " one winter in 1999" but you know nothing of Cuba, Cubans or anything about Cuba. I said what I had to say now, we can talk about the boxsters!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I feel good. I will let the "my friend" comment slide in the spirit of Christmas. Feliz Navidad amigo!