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Originally Posted by berj
Again, I don't dispute that this is a problem.. heck, thinking back I will be checking the oil stains in my parking space when I get back home next week -- I always thought they were old. My only interest is in figuring out what the probability of these failures are.
There's a difference between pointing out that there is a problem -- that's good -- and throwing a number like 25% failure rates around without any basis for it -- that's bad.
Berj
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Hi,
Well since Porsche isn't talking, there
can only be other sources. Various Polls have been conducted and while I concede that they are not by and large empirical, there is nevertheless some valuable information to be gleaned from them. Just because Porsche isn't talking doesn't mean the issue doesn't exists, or that it doesn't affect a significant number of cars.
Several other Forums have also conducted polls. One says 35%, our own says 25%-30%, and one in the UK states 40% but is including the 996 as well. All these seem too high to me.
Several months ago, I got a pair of Homeplate Seats for a Twins game. I called a friend of mine to invite him, but he said that he had a short meeting to attend and that I could come as his guest and we would proceed on to the game from there. Anyway, my friend works in Auto Sales, and the meeting was the TC Metro Auto Dealers Assn. My friend was being given an award for his work with a local Charity group which we are both involved in.
Anyway, the meeting began with a cocktail social. My buddy is busy working the room and I spot Doug Mulder, GM of one of the two Porsche Dealerships in town (Maplewood Imports) standing with another guy. I had met Doug on several occaisions and so I went over to say Hi. Doug introduced me to his guest, the local PCNA Area Rep. We chatted about Porsches in general, how the Cayman was selling, and such. Then the topic of warranty claims was brought up, so I told them that the RMS issue was getting a lot of press in the user forums, that several polls had been conducted and the results were around 30%, which I thought was too high. The Rep. said "it is, but close..." I asked 25%? and they both agreed "that's about right - 20%-25%..." Lacking any other source, this to me is the most
Official data I have heard and this is why I use that figure.
Regardless of the actual statistic, the incidence is high, relatively speaking. Should Porsche ever decide to share their information, it would only indicate the extent of the problem, but would do nothing to solve it. Not until Porsche does a significant revamping of the
M96 engine will the problem improve, not just a series of
Band-Aid fixes or
miracle new seals.
This will of course not benefit any of us, but future models will be immune. As a side note, there are now documented RMS failures on both the Cayman and the 997, so it appears the issue persists...
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99