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Originally Posted by delubozparts
Hi MNBoxster,
I'm a manufacturer for these Headers and Exhaust in Taiwan, family own Business (Definitely not a Brick and motar or a Server in Cyberland). They are made of T304 Stainless Steel with Robotic TIG Weld, Header are all mandrel Bend Piping with 16 gauge Thick Stainless Steel Piping with 1/2" Thick CNC Machined Flange. Exhaust are made from 2 seperate Muffler Canister with Straight through perforated Stainless Steel Chamber again all mandrel Bend with TIG Weld. These Header and Exhaust will Pass Emission Test except didn't have Carb.Exempt # Required by California Emission Regulations.
This Free Header and Exhaust Experiment are conducted in Exchange for Actual Dyno Results and Feedback by a Reputable Member (Randall) We both Gain mutual benefits. Is it Fair ??? Obvious not by your standard. To Randall ??? Yes Everyone here in this forum are well Educated to made His or Her own Decisions.
What does the Header and Exhaust Installation have to do with ie: fresh Oil, fresh plugs, top-quality fuel, properly operating fuel regulator, fuel pump, injectors, etc. All I'm Looking for is Baseline Dyno -> With Header -> With Header and Exhaust Plus any necessary Informations given by Randall.
Have I Offer any Sales to any members ??? NO All I'm doing is conducting this experiment. Out of Respect, I would pay for all Advertising or Sponsorship Fees if any sales were conducted. For all Business to stay running and operates required expense, which I'm fully awared of. If any 986forum.com Moderators thought this Posting required any Fees, Please do let me know and I'm willing to pay for immediately.
Of course I'm nobody,just a family own Business manufactured and Sells product directly. Unfortunately I don't have unlimited Funds to do Heavy Advertising Campaign like other well known Companies, All reputable companies starts out somewhere small and takes time to built up slowly. I've been in this Business for 6 years and all Business Transactions are done word of mouth with repeated customers. At least I should get a chance to prove myself, not just assuming and marked negative about me and products.
Sure sometimes things are just too good to be true,but not necessary good things can't happend.
As for my Feedback Remark, 99.7% with 6 years Sales History more than 12,275 Positive Transactions and with 33 Negative Transactions, Nobody is perfect and tends to make mistakes. Some of the Negative Feedback were mistake left by Customers, I do admitted at 25 Mistakes but all taking care of.
Randall had all my Personal informations such as Business locations and Home address plus contact e-mail and telephone, I'm not here to take advantage of anyone and disappeared.
Please arrest my case, and let time and results be the judge of the outcome. 
Best Regards,
Che |
Hi,
Che, I have no issue with a small businessman trying to grow their business. Nor do I have any issues per se with goods from Taiwan. Though some are produced using substandard materials and shoddy workmanship, others are quite excellent. I have no way of knowing to which category your products belong, so I reserve any judgement in this area.
Aside from working for several major corporations in my life, I too was a small businessman. I started an Internet Marketing Business several years ago. Things were slow at first, I was working for free mainly to preserve my investment. We didn't have the ability to compete toe-to-toe with the bigger players, but we worked harder and the business grew. I sold my interest just 5 months ago for many hundreds of times the initial investment I made, so it all worked out.
But, we couldn't place ads in the NY Times or the WSJ, so I had to find other ways to get my product out there, but not by hijacking a Forum ostensibly by offering to have someone Beta-Test my product like you have done. This could (and probably should) have been done by you through PM (Private Message or email) rather than in an open Forum.
We have sponsors who pay good money to have exclusive access to this Forum. And, they sell Headers and Exhausts as well, your thread is a direct competition to them. If you cannot afford to do this too, well, then that's too bad, but that's all it is.
You cannot feign being a small businessman and use this excuse to circumvent the rules or proper procedures (especially with an eBay history of 12k+ transactions, at least under your current name). If eBay is all you can afford right now, well that's what you're going to have to use. Sorry, but that's the way it is. Several of our members regularly scan eBay as well.
You'll notice that I never once suggested that Randall not do business with you, that's not my concern, Randall can do as he wishes. I do think your Beta-Test offer is irregular (especially to my experience), and so I expressed my opinion and experience. I personally would not take you up on your offer, for the reasons already stated, though I cannot speak for others.
But, when you use a Forum to which I'm a member to directly compete with the Sponsors who keep us running, then I have a right (perhaps even a duty) to speak up on their behalf.
Make no mistake, if you were a sponsor, I'd defend you just as vigorously (think how you'd feel if you were paying to advertise to this group and someone just joined and displayed a competing product without paying a fee?). Whether you make make an actual sales pitch, or use a testimonial from one of the members to display your product in front of this Forum's 6,000 members, you are still selling. You know this and I know this.
So far as your eBay statistics, this too is a valid issue. I have 6k+ transactions with 100% positive feedback. The percentages can be misleading, which is why eBay discloses the past 12 month's feedbacks. The raw numbers are more important because sheer volume can mask a problem seller (and we both know that often people are reluctant to leave negative feedback, even though they weren't satisfied). You have been one at least for some of your transactions. It's fair game to bring this up, especially for some stranger who just joins the group, and who in his first post, tries to secure $1,000 from one of the members. It was you who invited people to check you out, so crying foul now just has no validity.
I don't wish you any ill will. But, I'm not going to apologize for calling them like I see them, especially where the membership is at stake. These are good guys (and girls) who come here for accurate information on their cars and associated products and services. I'm sure that Rich (aka Bruce) tries to select honest, straightforward sponsors for just this reason.
The right thing for you to do is to take this thing private between you and Randall until such time as you can afford, and/or decide, to become a sponsor. Then there would be no problem with what you are trying to accomplish. I hope it all works out...
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99