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Old 09-01-2017, 12:24 AM   #231
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We want to move away from the F360 cloud and start over
Oops! another victim.... sorry to hear man :/

Have you tried the Siemens Manufacturing Forum? Used to be webkey membership only but I think you can join for free these days no? not 100% sure. For accurate info/price you need to find a local Siemens Partner (var). Without this guy you’ll be hitting closed doors in most cases bud. Siemens will provide direct support to e.g. Boeing, Porsche, Redbull F1 team, NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory… small companies like that, you see

In a nut shell…

Price: NX is cheap lollll Cost what your 911 used to worth at the dealer back in 2002 (‘brand-new’) :/ The way around that problem for a start-up is to get an industrial contract to pay for it upfront. You’ll want to ensure this contract is financially sufficient long term to cover your annual maintenance cost also (US$10k/year). Same advice I give everyone who wants to start-up at this CAD/CAM/CAE level. That is what we’ve done here and what many other sme like yours does too.

Manufacturing: is not an add-on btw, its built-in ootb. Adv ISV & Machine simulation is add-on tough – check with your VAR as prices varies a lot depending on what CAM pckg you’ll need. Careful however (what they don’t always tell you!): nothing is plug & play in NX manufacturing so make sure you have extensive knowledge and fluent in C and TCL programming language before launching/investing into this. If you don’t have the resources internally then simply forget about NX (Senior Software Engineer & Programmer level required).

Sim & validation works ootb from native NX but for industrial controllers only (SINUMERIKS, FANUC, HEID) however requires CSE drivers and those are specific to each controllers. You will need to write and modify your own Post Processors (in TCL) and tweak those CSE drivers for each and every machines based on your machine-tool builder’s specs. So… in a 3d space you tweak IJK vectors, euler angles, your channels, custom operations, UDE (User Defined Events) and so on. If you can’t write TCL then you need to outsource. A stable PP for NX will run you between $5,000~$15,000 ‘per machine’ depending on the complexity of the machine kinematics. All that to say… if you can’t hardcode those PP/CSE internally, then add the cost of another 911 car (used, 2002 model).

NX is not for girls man, and can be painfully complex. If you are serious or need official info, just PM me your company legal name/address/email and I’ll get you an temporary account set-up on GTAC under our number (webkey/pwd) so you can access the engineering KB from Siemens directly. It’s all going to make sense at that point for you.

Hope this helps bud, best I can do to help really. Best talking to your local var really
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