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Originally Posted by eslai
And again, the point I keep making that you still haven't addressed, although you find it so satisfying to be smug about people mentioning other flaws in the auto world (and I already mentioned that yes indeed, Mazda owned up to their mistake), is that I don't know that the problems I'm seeing are isolated only to Porsche.
There is a general arrogance in the high-end sports car market that seems to say "you've bought a rarefied sports car! It has its quirks and you should have the money to deal with them." Can we really single out Porsche on this when Lambos, Ferraris, Maseratis, et cetera all are money sinks as well? Shouldn't we just take the whole industry to task?
Cars continue to evolve and become more complex pieces of machinery. Old world craftsmanship is absent from just about all industries these days--everything is trending towards a disposable mentality.
******************** all you want about Porsche, but to me it just sounds like you're scapegoating them for an industry-wide issue. Automotive quality is down all across the board, but it seems like the manufacturers have managed to reset most customers' expectations. Bummer, eh?
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Hi,
I don't really think I'm being smug at all. I fail to see the relevance of a BMW or Miata having problems so far as the Boxster is concerned. Those would be concerns for Bimmer and Mazda Owners. The issue here (albeit in a hi-jacked thread), is the reliablity and design problems of the
Boxster.
Many cars are not becoming more complex at all. Direct injection, fewer and fewer Turbo'd cars are examples of this. Some cars are, but the Holy Grail in engineering is simplicity, not complexity.
Automotive Quality is up across the board. Some marques may be declining, but many others are climbing rapidly (think KIA, Subaru or Jaguar for example) with the overall effect that it is on the rise. When I was a kid, a car was pretty much done at 50k mi. while today at 100k mi. they're just reaching
adolescence for many. For Porsche, the conversations I had with the GM of a Dealership and the PCNA Rep indicate that their opinion is that it is declining, I think that's pretty telling.
And, I'm not scapegoating Porche or the Boxster (think how GREAT it truly would be if these issues did not exist), but neither am I denying that some serious issues exist and
continue to exist after nearly a decade and over 250k units (counting 996/997s) produced, which I find inexcusable...
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99