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Originally Posted by Smallblock454
Hello @ all,
first of all have fun with your car and don't think about the things discussed here while you drive it.  So just don't read.
I really appreciate your answers.
OK, but have you ever looked at it from a legal perspective in view of Porsche? Maybe that's a good idea.
Totally agree.
OK, if the clutch and DMF is never changed you definitely run into a problem. I agree with that. But i also said that there are the AT-cars where is never a clutch changed. So with the latest LN invention i'm shure we have now a solution for everyone. And that is good. Also it's good that everybody can do their own decision.
I did say a high quality roller bearing. I didn't specify that for different reasons. If you've noted my links you would see that maybe there are several options. For different reasons i totally agree with the fact that the best product that the user is willing to purchase should be built into the car. But i also say that if you have an MT car and change it within the clutch intervals i've proposed, you can go other ways without taking too many risks.
I understand that this is a problem - a real problem, especially for a smaller independent shop. I don't have a solution for that. But you'll never get better parts if you don't nail the manufacturer on the problem.
That is what i named with the early engine that were replaced completely. Looks if you combine some parts that are within specs of their own and combine them they get out of tolerance and you'll get an early failure.
These days i think they didn't have the mass production testing solution for that. Today i would say it's not problem to identify such an engine in the factory. As said, no manufacturer has any interested in failing engines with a repeatable failure. That is bad for the reputation and brand.
If you look at the new engine type designs you'll see that they've named the problems and completely redesigned the engines.
Please don't get me wrong. I don't say anything against the solution. What i say is that everybody can do his own decisions. From an indie shop perspective i would recommend the same. And concerning the faultless tool: it did take too long before it came on the market.
Thumbsup for LN. Always good to hear that the demand for a product is high.
I said maybe. And maybe i had a different view/intention when writing that. My perspective was not the total lifetime. My perspective was the ability to accept more tolerances at all. Also keep in mind that i wrote before about cost reduction and financial controllers. And also why the engineers might have designed it that way. Again, i have no problem with the solution. I appreciate if they have succes and if the owners have as much options as possible. Only thing i say is that everybody should do / can do his own decisions.
Regards, Markus
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Well, from a legal perspective, I think Porsche at least somewhat lost that argument when they got hit with the class action judgement. While I realize that large corporations often move in geologic time, accepting that there was an aftermarket fix and adopting it could have saved them time, money, and image; but they chose to hold their ground, which in the end did not work out so well.
The reason the Faultless Tool was delayed to market was because they wanted to patent it first. They learned a bitter lesson from the first tool kit; if you don't protect your intellectual property and development costs, anybody can get into the game with cheap and often poorly made knock offs, some of which actually fell apart on first use and were subsequently sent back to LN for replacement. Only problem was they were not LN units. So in response, every new development undergoes patent protection first (if possible) before they appear in public. The result is often a delay of a year or more before you can get one, but the chances of a bogus knock off are significantly reduced. To give you an idea of how pervasive this problem is, LN has actually encountered fake LN IMS Retrofit kits being sold. And God only knows what kind of bearing is in them, but guess who would get the blame if one of them fails.
We work with a very good dealer on parts, but they, like every other dealer, are hamstrung by Porsche's parts system. They have mechanisms to report problem, but rarely if ever hear anything more once the report is filed. It is not always easy for the tail to shake the dog.