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Old 03-19-2009, 09:52 AM   #28
threpwood
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Originally Posted by Samson
Just because the other cars sell well, it does not mean they should jump the wagon and copy. That is unoriginal.

So then, Porsche is unoriginal by jumping on the Miata bandwagon, which is nothing new when you think of an Austin Healey, which is nothing more than an affordable rehash of a Bugatti Type 35. OK. I'm fine with that, I guess. Hell, a 911 is just a fancy 1936 Beetle with a chopped top.

Now you know your Prius "ugly" argument is completely worthless, right? Ugly? The car is designed to be as efficient as possible (within the confines of the accountants), and is 100% function over form. (<- I thought that was the essence of the Europeans... what's that, my peeling soft-touch dashboard?) Another option to make it look less dorky? Well, not if you want a Cd of .26. The new Prius looks much better, but like the Insight, it's that shape for a reason. It works.

Hell, have you seen a Mercedes Bionic? It looks like a bloated Prius with severe head trauma, but guess what? Cd of .19. That's impressive. Terribly unattractive to those interested in beauty that is only skin deep , but an amazingly impressive design.

Geo vs Boxster? True, there is no fundamental difference. They're both cars. They will both get you from point A to point B in relative comfort and like all cars, they are both fun in their own ways. The difference comes in when you look at the important stuff... the engine, the feel, the noises. That has nothing to do with how a car looks. On top of all of that is personal preference and all that nonsense... that's where the interesting part comes in. You can get what speaks to you for whatever reason, be it a Cayman S or a 370z. Image, design, fun, resale value, reliability, trunk size, whatever.

Lil bastard - As a designer, I totally agree... there really isn't a truly unique design anymore. There may be a new style based on something old, or a great combination of existing languages with your own personal touch (that is inspired by something else) that produces a groundbreaking product, but it's damn hard to come up with something that is original. Or maybe I'm just burnt out at the moment...
Uh...911 is a 1936 beetle chop off? And you have to write a book just to explain your point? Like I said, you just don't get what I said so I guess no point in arguing with you. I do not think your opinion is worthless, but I do think you are living in lala land. My opinion is not worthless and yes, Prius design is ugly. If Prius do look NICE then heaven forbid nobody calls it dorky car. I agree the term is not nice, but it proves my point that to be original, Toyota has no clue in making Prius looks original and looks "good" without copying other European design.

"Everything is just a derivative of everything else" is a typical argument of counterfeiter, no good patent infringer, no offense. If you are really a designer, then you should understand this better. Wait till someone grab your design, alter it here and there and call it theirs.

Out of topic, I see you drive a Lexus and Atenza, but you know what? Lexus is famous in Japan because the dealerships are known to discriminate buyers based on how deep your pockets are or how much gold rings that you wear. But I guess you do not know that because all your care is that you drive a car that gets you to point A and B and acceptable to you. Oh I am not jealous because I can afford a few top class Lexus if I want, but I see beyond just a car. I really wish I live in la-la land like you, but it's time to wake up
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