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[Mrmaddbrad]

Originally Posted by Z-art

Nice to hear ur opinion about me.....people like you make a lot of blahblah ....but if you ask them for binding agreement to order they dont even response anymore. I make a poll couple of month ago in facebook ...... 4 only wanna order. I do not asking for any down payment like Zeintec do before i just need 20 or more binding orders because tooling and hardware cost a lot of money and I just wanna be sure that i get at least that $$$ back. I was looking over month to find some one like a sonsor or partner who is willing to set up a company in the states with me I have all the know how to do. But lots of promises only. thats the fact...believe or not.

Definatly agree with the idea of going to a bank and getting a loan to start this business man!

But if its money up front that you need, why don't you just ask for cost of materials up front, put in an order. Make that one top, send it after they pay the rest in full.

Just saying... Any idea on a cost? Do they look like the top on the black boxster (err... cayman boxster? lol) on your facebook page?

[thstone]

Originally Posted by Mrmaddbrad

Definatly agree with the idea of going to a bank and getting a loan to start this business man!

But if its money up front that you need, why don't you just ask for cost of materials up front, put in an order. Make that one top, send it after they pay the rest in full.

Banks won't loan you a dime unless you already have your business up and running and can show them a strong financial history of sales/profits. OR if you're willing to put up personal collateral, like the equity in your house, against the loan. What Z-art really needs is an angel investor/partner.

And the problem with asking for material costs up front is that its very hard (if not impossible) to buy only the material needed to produce one unit and even if you could, it would be too expensive.

To get a decent price on raw materials, a manufacturer has to buy in some level of bulk and it appears that z-art has determined that means a minimum quantity of 20 units before he can start up production.

I recently purchased the design of an electronic controller and had to fund the manufacture and assy of 50 circuit boards out of my own pocket in order to meet the cost/profit/price target. Any fewer and I either had to raise the price (and lose sales) or not make any profit (because of higher material costs).

[Mrmaddbrad]

Haha yes I knew this... But I meant instead of asking for people to pay for their top beforehand. Just ask for material costs. After 20 or so people sign up and have payed, begin production. Sounds easy enough..

They are great looking tops. Still looking for the idea of a price on what these tops costs lol

[Z-art]

I do not asking for any down payment ...sorry for my poor english ....i just was asking for binding orders. Payments will be later by PayPal.... u will not even loose a single cent if we are not deliver. What more problem

[Mrmaddbrad]

Originally Posted by Z-art

I do not asking for any down payment ...sorry for my poor english ....i just was asking for binding orders. Payments will be later by PayPal.... u will not even loose a single cent if we are not deliver. What more problem

Sounds good to me! Yes, prices would be very nice

[986_inquiry]

Originally Posted by Z-art

I do not asking for any down payment ...sorry for my poor english ....i just was asking for binding orders. Payments will be later by PayPal.... u will not even loose a single cent if we are not deliver. What more problem

Three questions:
1) do you have any of these tops ready now?
2) can you paint them to match the car ?
3) can I just drive up there and we can put it on while I'm there and pay cash? Paypal fees on $2000+ would be somewhere around $50+, and gas @$4/gal +hotel would cost roughly $700 round-trip from Saint Louis to St Paul, probably cheaper than shipping it, and then I get to see it and pay cash and save you $$$

I'd wait until the summer though, weather's still too crazy, and I might be buying another house this year so it might not happen at all but I'm still wondering.

Large FAQ here:
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[boxster6354]

If I am not mistaken "Z-Art" or Andreas Zeinecke lives in either Switzerland (accourding to 986 profile) or Edmonton, Alberta (according to Facebook account)

And at the start they were manufacturing them in South Africa.

[Z-art]

Hi, do you see any problem about ???

[Z-art]

Hi there ...the top will look like on the black Boxster, just like to tell I am the Inventor of that top

[Russ22]

Originally Posted by Z-art

Hi there ...the top will look like on the black Boxster, just like to tell I am the Inventor of that top

Can you please make contact - I can assist in many ways, not only in production, but premises & all aspects to get the top back to market & production - please reply to hopefully enable telephone contact - kind regards - Russ

[Z-art]

Originally Posted by Russ22

Can you please make contact - I can assist in many ways, not only in production, but premises & all aspects to get the top back to market & production - please reply to hopefully enable telephone contact - kind regards - Russ

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[brp987]

I'm interested in a Ztop. I emailed to "andreas@ogi.co.za" a week ago and no reply.

[Z-art]

Hi, if u like to order a top and u do not trust paypal or our company than go to your Bank and open a letter of credit. Fees are perhaps the same as by paypal.

[Z-art]

Hi brp987,
I mention quit often the best way to reach me is my mail: zeinecke@bluewin.ch
Regards
Andreas

[brp987]

Is there anyone in LA area who has a ztop (or whatever they're called) they can show me?