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I love it. This is a super cool mod, and I'll be following. May end up doing something similar myself.
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I have it all pop riveted together (partially). Now I need to file down and clean up the edges, take it apart, wrap the hood and then drill and rivet the rest of it together. All in all I probably have a full day wrapped up into getting to this point. A few lessons learned
1) make template after template, use lots of cardboard. 2) make panels one at a time, rivet them to the hood then recheck your templates for the remaining pieces. dimensions change as the rivets go it. 3) change your jigsaw blades often to keep cuts clean. 4) use tape to protect aluminum surface 5) don't cut aluminum big with the plans to trim. Get the template 100% right then cut 6) measure the straightness constantly, it will want to pull in different directions. http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/11580567789.jpghttp://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/3331580567819.jpg http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/221580567830.jpg |
I'm liking your improvements to it. How do you get under the hood now? It looks like it's riveted to the body
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Ok now I’ve really lost. I posted this up on Grassroots and a very knowledgeable guy that’s been helping me told me that due to the size of this thing what I really need is a “cowl flap” and to make it efficient it Really should be adjustable. What if....I used the Boxsters 70mph spoiler deployment system to automatically raise and lower the flap...and change the pitch of the rear wing. It would work in the opposite way the stock wing works though it would maximize downforce below 70mph. I wonder if just reversing the poles on the stock actuators would reverse the direction they operate, anyone know? Alright my crazy pills are wearing off.
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Ok I’m back and with some more crazy piles. So using the stock Boxster actuator system won’t work because it deploys at 70 and retracts at 45 or something. I would need a signal that’s consistent at 70. I wonder how the stock system is being signaled, maybe they’re is a consistent signal I could use from it. Anyone know?
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If it was me, I would slap an Arduino in there as a control system.
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Are you a guy who can build stuff like that? Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk |
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There's a few factory vehicles that have a similar hood extractor. Do they have adjustable flaps on them? Seems to me you're starting to over engineer it. The more complex items, the more chances of something breaking and things break a lot on race cars. Just my opinion
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I love your guts, not anyone would attempt this.. :-)
However, I´m not totally convinced regarding the benefits. If you had a middle radiator I´m sure venting it via the hood is the hardcore way, better than via "the smile" and far better than the standard venting under the car. (given reasonable angles and size of outlet) As a stand alone aero-mod not needed for venting a radiator I'm afraid it will give quite a lot of drag, If I where to attemt it I believe I would go for a smaller outlet, not let the opening go so far forward. Not that you asked for my subjective opinions.. I´m certainly no expert! :-) Love this kind of topics and creative mods, looking forward to upcoming updates! |
Love this project. I suggest mixing up some flowviz to see what the airflow looks like across the hood. Based on that you can adjust the angle of attack/radius to keep the airflow attached.
EDIT: if you haven’t already, you should read this: https://read.amazon.com/kp/kshare?asin=B01N25RRVT&id=7NWd7w_BSJ-sgyVpdT7aNA&reshareId=JJCPBHBDVCBEFBYGWMRF&reshare Channel=system |
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[Edit - tapping into the car signal instead of a GPS would probably be a lot better but I have no idea how to do that :) ] Check out the digital screen in the lower left of this video. On the left is a real-time GPS speedo, and to the right is the pinned vMin or vMax speed. (The vMin is really useful, when I am trying to build speed through a corner I can peek down on the next straight and see how I did). There is a little overlap due to it being such a tiny screen - the intent was just to display the vMin/vMax but I had the current speed on there for debugging, and just left it there. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/2zLIiU6skYU" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe> For this we could define two speeds, one at which the cowl would open and one at which it would close. Separate them by some amount (5 mph?) so that it doesn't oscillate when you are near the threshold speed. If you want to do it, I'm in. I have never controlled a motor before but we could figure it out :) |
You could easily use a voltage divider circuit from the VSS / wheel speed sensor to feed a speed reference into the arduino. From there, map an output to a relay on/off at whatever speed you want to deploy and retract. No gps lag then.
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I love this project!
Is there any thought to create a slight ridge on the leading edge of the vent? Most motorsport-oriented vents I have seen are slightly "proud" of the plane of the hood. I gather that this creates a small vortex which aids in extraction. Have a look at modern cars like a McLaren P1, or more basic executions like the original racing GT40s. |
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Just those two modifications would help lessen lift, which many people call adding downforce. It isn't adding downforce, of course, but if you eliminate 200 lbs of lift, it's the same as adding 200 lbs of downforce. |
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This was at COTA this weekend. I didn't see any movable flaps on it |
Last week I finished the hood and splitter and then headed to the VIR to run the full and grand course. Being the first time out of the season I wasn't able to get any good data, but it is generating some front end downforce but also seems to be impacting my top speed (again hard to gauge since it was so cold out). I did notice that force of the air hitting the inside duct caused the hood to bow up, I think decreasing the angle of the duct would make a huge difference, I'm going to add some plates to help direct the air up wards before it hits the back of the duct and see if that works. In other news man it felt good to get back on the track now that winter is over!! :cheers:
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My knowledge base and experience would say the best way to add front downforce, regardless of actually adding downforce verse eliminating lift, would be to ditch the side RADS and use a center only rad in the duct that you built. In stock form the side rads pack air under the nose of the car in front of the tires and even opened up into the wheel while you're packing the wheel well with air which we already know is a high pressure area generally. |
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