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Dropping both Engine and Trans to do IMS?
My Boxster went in to have the IMS and AOS replaced today. Something I've wanted to do since I purchased it two months ago.
While giving me a tour of his shop and the projects he is working on, he mentioned to they will get started on my car today and drop the engine and trans. He prefers to drop the entire engine to do the IMS.??? He mentioned he's going to check all my gaskets, belts, etc. and will replace if he sees anything needing it. It didnt' strike me as odd at the time, but I've been thinking about this all day. Anyone else have their engine dropped when their IMS was being replaced??? |
Don't second guess an experienced mechanic. Instead ,I suggest you focus on a 'while you are in there' list to take advantage of having easy access to the engine. ASk here for suggestions to add to that list but a competent Indie will already know. This is a great opportunity to avoid some large labor expenses and some needlessly long diagnostics in future - for example , finding vacuum leaks !
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" I asked about the RMS, but he said if it's not leaking, not to change it. He mentioned they are very tricky to seat perfectly. We agreed he'd look at the spark plug oil tubes, serpentine belt, pulleys, etc. He is going to change the AOS."
Those are all items that a diy mechanic can replace with the engine in the car.There are plenty of examples of exactly that here in Search. I too am doubting the title "Experienced Mechanic" - certainly not with a Boxster Ask here for a referral to better M96 mechanic in Tampa. Look for one Approved to do the LN Engineering IMSB for example. |
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In saying that, the effort to be wrong and pull the gearbag etc is my effort and zero cost (other than my time) so that's an easy decision to make. Just wanted to mention that I support the mechanics view that if it is working, leave it alone - seen times when someone who "changed the RMS" and when it wasn't leaking and now it is. Hard call to make and damned if you do and damned if you don't. |
Finally got my Box back and wouldn't you know the RMS WAS leaking. So I had the RMS, AOS, and IMS replaced. He went over the engine, drivetrain, and suspension and everything looks great.
A couple of curious things I learned. LN supplies a sticker to put on the boot lid to certify the IMS Retrofit has been completed on the vehicle. They also ask for the old IMS and an oil sample to be sent back to them for inspection. Anyone else send theirs back? For those looking at used vehicles which claim they have the IMS Retro, the sticker in the boot might help determine if it was genuinely done. |
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PS: Hey, look at that, my 500th post! |
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P.S. My IMS had very slight play in it. So I feel better about replacing it. |
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I'm starting mine tomorrow and only plan to remove the trans.
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So when the RMS wasn't leaking, taking that chance for no extra gain seems a little bold and bordering on foolish.... YMMV |
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And your "gain" is a seal that will probably never leak. |
My LN IMS sticker is in the driver's door jamb. Just FYI.
Chris |
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Be extra careful installing it to the correct depth and stay within 1 billionth of a mm of the crank's end bits; ensure it is microscopically clean with zero fingerprints on the seal or on any nearby parts with a 1 foot radius; and don't install it slightly off centre of which you need to use Porsche special tool ABC with toolkit XYZ which will keep you within 10 kms of the equator. Follow these tips or it will leak all the oil in the first crank etc.... and you ordered the right seal too yeah? Oh, and the process is so easy a blind monkey could do it... in fact every grandma with a wrench does them before lawn bowls on Sundays using just used toilet parts that having been cobbled together using tape, glue, spare cut bolts and a toe nail clipper. So yeah why wouldn't you do it !? I'm happy having left the working RMS alone and will investigate it again if it ever decides to leak, and I'm fine with that decision :-) G |
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