01-20-2013, 03:23 PM
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I have stock brakes on my 2.7 and they work fine on the track with the cheapest Mintex pads. Very good braking, no fade with a good brake fluid flush before the event and GT3 air scoops to cool the brakes. I go through about 1/3 Of the pad in an event. If you are burning up pads, go to a race pad.
S brakes are not going to make any difference.
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01-20-2013, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by san rensho
I have stock brakes on my 2.7 and they work fine on the track with the cheapest Mintex pads. Very good braking, no fade with a good brake fluid flush before the event and GT3 air scoops to cool the brakes. I go through about 1/3 Of the pad in an event. If you are burning up pads, go to a race pad.
S brakes are not going to make any difference.
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I’m not sure how to answer your comment. Where we run, and our run group vary pretty widely, and my car is highly modified. I Have GT3 brake ducts. I run either EBC Yellow Stuff or Pagid Black pads. Homestead has 40' elevation change. Watkins Glen has 4 down hill high speed brake zone the worst would be 140' downhill to a hairpin. VIR has 230' of elevation change downhill from Maple tree to the front straight. Summit Point has 400' of elevation change. This is a highly suggested conversion in the north east in white black and red run groups.
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2003 Black 986. modified for Advanced level HPDE and open track days.
* 3.6L LN block, 06 heads, Carrillo H rods, IDP with 987 intake, Oil mods, LN IMS. * Spec II Clutch, 3.2L S Spec P-P FW. * D2 shocks, GT3 arms & and links, Spacers front and rear * Weight reduced, No carpet, AC deleted, Remote PS pump, PS pump deleted. Recaro Pole position seats, Brey crouse ext. 5 point harness, NHP sport exhaust
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01-20-2013, 06:18 PM
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S brakes will work fine with stock 17" rims as long as the wheels are straight. Get some track-capable pads in there so you don't burn down the "S" brakes next.
Hawk Blue-good
Pagid Orange- better
Raybestos ST-43- best
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01-20-2013, 07:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Topless
S brakes will work fine with stock 17" rims as long as the wheels are straight. Get some track-capable pads in there so you don't burn down the "S" brakes next.
Hawk Blue-good
Pagid Orange- better
Raybestos ST-43- best
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When the outside temp is 80 or lower I use EBC Yellow Stuff ceramic mostly because of cost. When the temp is higher than 80 I use Pagid black RS14 Ceramic. I use Zimmerman rotors. I find in the White solo group with late passing I'm harder on my brakes. A group of about 15 of CPA-PCA run Watkins Glenn about 4 times or more a year. We all carry at least one extra set of pad every weekend we're there. First time at Summit Point We had a multi Group solo track day. I had new pads put on Thursday EBC Yellow Tech and flushed with Blue High temp fluid. Sunday there were 2-1 hour sessions The lap before the Checker would have came out on the first session pedal to the floor and in the gravel turn 1. Pulled the pads had an 1/8" to 3/16" lining left. Just the fronts. I'm thinking a bad set of pad but :ah:
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2003 Black 986. modified for Advanced level HPDE and open track days.
* 3.6L LN block, 06 heads, Carrillo H rods, IDP with 987 intake, Oil mods, LN IMS. * Spec II Clutch, 3.2L S Spec P-P FW. * D2 shocks, GT3 arms & and links, Spacers front and rear * Weight reduced, No carpet, AC deleted, Remote PS pump, PS pump deleted. Recaro Pole position seats, Brey crouse ext. 5 point harness, NHP sport exhaust
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01-20-2013, 08:09 PM
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Wow! Maybe a sticking caliper. My brother had problems with crud in the front calipers that were not fully releasing and after several flushes they seem to improve. I typically get 20 track days (2000 track miles) on the ST-43s in front, 40 or more days on the rear. I have used RS-14s and RS-29s but get a lot more life out of the 43s with better modulation.
We do have a couple of hills out here as well.
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01-21-2013, 05:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Topless
Wow! Maybe a sticking caliper. My brother had problems with crud in the front calipers that were not fully releasing and after several flushes they seem to improve. I typically get 20 track days (2000 track miles) on the ST-43s in front, 40 or more days on the rear. I have used RS-14s and RS-29s but get a lot more life out of the 43s with better modulation.
We do have a couple of hills out here as well.

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Awesome picture I'm guessing the downhill complex Luguna Seca. My guess would be that puts a knot in your stomach the first time hit the lefthand at the top and turn blind into that downhill at speed. Thank you for your comments. and advise.
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2003 Black 986. modified for Advanced level HPDE and open track days.
* 3.6L LN block, 06 heads, Carrillo H rods, IDP with 987 intake, Oil mods, LN IMS. * Spec II Clutch, 3.2L S Spec P-P FW. * D2 shocks, GT3 arms & and links, Spacers front and rear * Weight reduced, No carpet, AC deleted, Remote PS pump, PS pump deleted. Recaro Pole position seats, Brey crouse ext. 5 point harness, NHP sport exhaust
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01-21-2013, 10:57 AM
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[QUOTE=Topless;324511]Wow! Maybe a sticking caliper. My brother had problems with crud in the front calipers that were not fully releasing and after several flushes they seem to improve. I typically get 20 track days (2000 track miles) on the ST-43s in front, 40 or more days on the rear. I have used RS-14s and RS-29s but get a lot more life out of the 43s with better modulation.
We do have a couple of hills out here as well.
+1, you really shouldn't be burning the pads as quickly as you say.
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