installed evo intake in 04 box s
 

hi all,i had aj usa in san diego install the evo intake late last week ,here is a pic of it...question , i thought it was suposse to have some kind of sheilding to block the heat from the motor..the guys at aj said that is all that came with the kit....on a differnt note,when i was at the ventura show a few weeks ago the guys from giac were there and they convinced me on there chip mod..so the guys fron evo motorsports were there doing the remapping..i had them do it..bye the way my revo remapping had already expired..and since most people on the web seem to think or seem to say that giac is the best at i went for it...900.00 later and what a mistake that was..the box ran like sh#t...you hit the gas and feel like it was misfiring...evo had told me that the chip worked best with the combo of it and there intake...so like an idoit i beleaved it and had aj usa install the intake..well the intake did not make the car run any worse but it did not help either..so i went a place in san diego called the dynoshop to do acouple of runs and see what came up..well the car is running way to rich and between 5200 rpm and 6000 rpm my h.p drops by like 25 hp...the guys told me thats the tuning and to check my sparkplugs because one could be bad...so this saturday i had a friend help me pull the plugs and replace them and not just was fouled but 3 were.he also said it looks like you are running to rich...so replaceed the plug with a fresh set.. and the hesitation between 5000 and 6000 is still there...i faxed the dyno run info to evo on friday and there were suposse to call me back today...i got such call...so thats were i am at now not very happy with evo and there products and there support... :(

I just did the Evo Intake kit with the baffle this weekend in my 01 S and it looks similar but there is a baffle between the Cone filter and the rest of the engine. It seems to me that your Filter is just sucking in hot air. The baffle with mine boxes out the rest of the engine compartment and has a weatherstrip/ gasket at the top to meet the engine cover. I thought it was well engineered. The results were instant and excellent. The engine ran perfectly, actually smoother than before.. it could be the fact that the old filter was extremely dirty. The performance increase was twice as nice as doing the exhaust.
I would check with evo to make sure you have all parts of the kit!
Best of luck.
Joe
01 S
Triple Black

Don't take this comment the wrong way but ......

You are more likely to receive some constructive input if you communicate using proper grammar, spelling and punctuation.

As an example, I was unwilling to wade through your message to figure our your situation, your questions etc.

I think others with be similarly unwilling.

Thanks!

:cheers:

thanks for all the info joe
 

i will check with evo in the morning :)

here is my dyno run after giac,evo intake and dansk headers
 

not very good, i looks like the guys at aj's missed installing the fresh airbox or evo did not send it to them...even so does anyone think that the intake alone would cause that bad of a problem in the dyno run? any input would be great ..thanks in advance... :)

Hi,

Sounds like a MAF issue to me. Did you by any chance have a K&N Filter before switching to the EVO?

BTW, without a before Dyno Chart, the one you posted is not very informative.

It's typical to have a drop in the mid when switching intakes. All the gains come at the top end, not really very usable. Why did you get the EVO? Noisemaker? Lots of guys like the sound better. Good Luck!

Happy Motoring!...Jim'99

update revo chip,evo intake with cold air box and dansk headers
 

Hi all, i got everything installed and replaced the giac ecu mod with the revo mod. This ecu mod seems to work alot better on my box s..here are the dyno pulls...i am much happier now..thanks to all from any help with any of my questions..

P.S. mark over at Hergesheimer did a great job and was very helpful..if you live in o.c. area i highly recommend him.. :)

Man...after reading sooooooo many posts of people having troubles with their 'Box after installing "performance" items costing thousands of dollars it still pains me to see people still trying to do it! If its sound your after just do the FREE de-snorkel mod. Same performance gain as an overly expensive intake at NO COST. Many cars out there do respond to performance parts but the 'Box just isn't one of them.

^, It's a crap shoot. Clubhead on here put on Dasnk highflow cats and headers with a basically stock intake and had good results. He was pushing about 237hp on his 02 Tip box S at the wheels and if I remember correctly the TQ numbers looked real good too. A standard box S would have around 220hp at the wheels and probably less with a tiptronic tranny so I would say that was a success for doing so little. He had gains in the mid-range too, not just up top. Things started going south for him when he messed with the GIAC software and he was also disappointed with the product and support.

Hi Adam, well with the numbers I got back 246 H.P at the wheels...i can really feel the difference...the car has a lot more jump from 3500 to 5500 rpm...i am pretty happy know. I agree the giac software made my box s run pretty bad. The revo software is a completely different story... :dance:

id like to know if you really own a boxster!!!!!!!!!
 

dude next time if you cant read or understand, no need to reply! this reply of yours is probably just as bad as not being able to understand what someone is trying to say. and please dont reply to this, because i probably wont be able to understand what your trying to say!

Relax :rolleyes:

He's just trying to help the guy out and obviously didn't mean to be mean. :matchup:

Brucelee does have a valid point...communicate effectively and you will receive unbelievable feedback! Luckily, I was able to wade through the run on sentences to understand what he meant! Again, not to be mean! :cheers:

didntknowpeepswerebeinggradedonhowtheyspellorrunon sentences,ifyoucantunderstand,noneedtoreply.youobv iouslyunderstoodwhathemeant.ifindthatthisbruceleec haracteraddshistwocentstoeverypost,evenifhehasnoth ingtosay,whichisnormallythecase.......

^ Your maturity level is overwhelming. Save that **************** for homeroom.

I second that emotion Adam...
 

and never disrespect the name of Bruce Lee...even if it is only a screen name.

Now let's return to our previously scheduled programming...boxsters.

got in a fun little tangle with a lotus elise this morning on the way to work...twisty little highway onramp with three nice high speed corners...that little bugger was doin' alright...but when I hit third gear he faded fast. I love the look of them though...particularly in the rear-view mirror. ;-)

Hi,

You must have had an inexperienced or unmotivated driver in that Elise. Otherwise, I don't buy it.

The Elise weighs 1,975lbs., the Boxster S - 3,118lbs. The Elise goes 0-60 in 4.9 sec., the Boxster S - 5.5 sec. The Elise must push 10.5lbs/HP, the Boxster S - 12.4lbs./HP.

It simply doesn't add up on paper...

Happy Motoring!...Jim'99

Calm down man. Your lucky Brucelee hasn't locked/deleted your thread. The board may not say it but Brucelee is an admin.

who are you? if he's admin, he should respect that not everyone on here is a scholar. the dude made one or two mistakes in what he was trying to say, and he rips him, and your telling me what? read the first post, nothing wrong with what the guy was saying. relax like im swearing or telling someone off!!!ya hear. my point being that if you dont understand someone go on to the next discussion, did you read that, go on to the next discussion, no need to reply.......

spelling and grammer 101..sign me up
 

the funny part is that he makes two mistake's in his own reply. trying to punk someone on grammer and he makes two grammer mistakes himself. where is he, why hasnt he replied, he's 'admin', yet he cant spell..are you kidding me. i cant spell for ****************, my grammer is ****************ed, i type so fast, i make so many mistakes and i have this guy correcting my grammer..ya ah hi

I had an Elise and traded it for a 2000 Boxster S. The ONLY way to get a 0-60 of 4.9 sec. would be to drop the clutch at around 8,000 RPM. There is NO power in this thing until you get over 6500 RPM. THEN...you must shift at the correct point to keep the car in the second sets of cams or your acceleration will suffer dramatically until you once again hit the second set of cams. Also I experienced tons of wheel hop while trying to accelerate from a stop quickly. The Boxster doesn't do this. Hell, for fun I raced my buddy in an auto '96 Vette and we stayed together for quite a bit before he finally pulled away at 80 or so. :cheers:

Hi,

I have tons of Seat Time in the Elise, going back to 2000 including Track Time both here in the States and at the Test Track at Hethel. I have 4 friends who own them and another who has a Series 1 Sun Conversion with the Honda VTec (actually the best combination). I even demonstrated the Elise for Lotus at the 2002 Mpls. Auto Show and got 7 deposits for the Local Dealer.
This car was a straight ROW demonstrator with the Kent Engine, not nearly so powerful as the Yamaha-Based, Toyota US Variant.

I am certain that I could better any Boxster out there in an Elise, except in a straight line, and only then when approaching Red Line. This is why I say the Driver was either inexperienced or unmotivated in the situation described.

It doesn't surprise me that the Corvette could pull away at will. It's power-to-weight ratio is superior.

Now, the Elise is unlivable as anything more than a Fun or Track Car, but that's another issue.

Happy Motoring!...Jim'99

I agree that the Elise will outhandle a Boxster. I agree the Vette will pull away but I was thinking it would have happened quicker. My last reply was to you quoting 0-60 times and I know from experience that the Elise is NOT a 4.9 sec car (unless you absolutely fry the clutch trying)! Now...i'm not a track guy and most people who have the Elise will never see the track. Like me they bought the Elise sight unseen and thought it would have been a great car to cruise around town. But like most people who bought the first 2000 found out it becomes downright boring driving a pure track car on the streets. This then makes the Boxster so much nicer. An all around fun car!

I wish I had the luck to have been able to drive the Elise around the Hethel track. Hell, I wish I had the luck to drive any car around any twisties. Chicago is just too flat! :cheers:

Hi,

I totally agree with you. It is not practical or enjoyable in any other form than pure Rock n' Rollin'. I had the opportunity to purchase one $5k offlist when they first arrived because of some relationships I have, but declined and got the Boxster, it so much nicer an all-around ride.

BTW, there's a very nice Raod Course not far from you - Blackhawk Farms Raceway, located in South Beloit, Illinois maybe 90 minutes from Downtown Chitown. It's a great 1.95 mile Road Course. If interested in Track time, check them out. I'm sure they have Open Track Days or open Car Club events on their calendar. I've driven it many times with my Lotus Esprit and Formula Vee and it's a really nice course.

Happy Motoring!...Jim'99

The Elise does have a good 0-60 if driven well, but it starts slowing down in a hurry once speeds start to get serious. The Box S will catch it in a high speed run(just for arguements sake). 0-120 mph they are about even and past that the Box just keeps pullin away. The little 1.8L can't overcome the wind resistence which is why it is drag limited to about 150mph compared to the Box S top speed of 164mph.

Jim, I live in Charleston IL about 45 min south of Champaign. How far approximately is that track from me? Sounds like fun.

@Adam,

Check them out here: http://www.blackhawkfarms.com/ The local PCA affiliate holds several events here annually.

Happy Motoring!...Jim'99

Elise vs Box S
 

The Elise is more versatile than it looks. I just had 5,000 miles of seat time in an Elise, including a bit of tracking. I used it as a daily driver too. 1 month ago I took a road trip in it with my wife for a long weekend at the beach (Miami to Captiva Island on the West coast of FL). BTW am 6'0" tall.

The Elise does have its limitations, but I enjoyed driving it every day, especially with the Quicksilver Sport Exhaust, Sport Suspension & Touring Packages. The hardtop looked cool too.

I traded the Elise for my Box S due to a frustrating problem...the AC can't handle the heat/humidity in Miami. The AC is an afterthought; problems with the AC are well documented on the Elise boards. If it weren't for that issue I'd still have the Elise.

In terms of handling, the Elise is more agile than the Boxster. The Elise accelerates more quickly at lower speeds than the Box S, although keepin it "on the boil" is tricky due to the 6K RPM threshold for the second cam profile.

Insofar as design, the Elise looks fantastic. The Box does too, but at this point it is a very common sight

Having said all that, the Box S is much more tractable given its torque. The Box S has a higher top speed. The Box S hurries along quickly without making a fuss-- you go faster than you think you're going if you don't watch it; the Elise is a rabid Chihuahua by comparison-- you feel you're going faster than you actually are. The driving experience in the Box S is sublime compared to the Elise.

The Bose stereo works well on the Box S (the Blaupunkt on the Elise does not...and the speaker tops melt in the sun...happened twice to me and I didn't park in the sun). The Box S has plenty of storage space. The Elise's body shell cracks expensively if you're ever hit (it's a fiberglass shell--the front clam costs $6K). The Box has and will have plenty of options and accessories available for it...much more than the Elise. The Elise requires oil changes every 4.5K miles; the Box S is every 15K. Overall the quality of everything on the Box is better than the quality of the Elise.

Bottom line, I'm pleased with my trade, but the Elise is a great car as well if you don't need AC!

.

@SJP3003,

Hi,

Don't get me wrong - I LOVE the Elise for what it is. I first drove a Gen 1 back in '98. It's a fantastic piece of engineering - the Modern Day Europa, but better. The AC was an afterthought and not even available on ROW cars, so I'm not surprised by your comments...

Happy Motoring!...Jim'99