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Dyno results!!
I finally dynoed my car!
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1348594842.jpg HP was 244 @ 6300; TQ was 212 @ 5600 with 15% drive train loss, that would figure to 287FWHP. Not bad. FWIW, the air/fuel ratio looked a bit lean. Any insights? 3.2L engine Softronic flash 75mm 996TB Pedro's TechnoTorque 3 3" intake tubing to a cone filter located outside the engine compartment Chinese headers Fabspeed bypass pipes Borla muffler (It's over 95db) LW flywheel Stage 3 plus clutch Guard torque biasing diff RSS underdrive pulley A/C delete ** I also weighed her last week and she came in right at 2700 lbs!!! |
2700! How did you do that?
I noticed my exhaust crackling quite a bit more after loading the softronic flash. My first impression was ...ooh is that a little too lean? What AFRs do you have? It hard to read your chart. You could load up the stock flash and see if that brings you back. I have not tried this myself |
I got down to 2700 by:
removing the convertible top, motor, transmissions, and everything else related to the top (got a hard top for driving to and from events) removing all the carpet removing all sound deadening swapping the seats for fiberglass shells (fixed to the floor w/ no adjustments) radio delete A/C delete including all pipes and condensors fiberglass trunklid removing the automatic spoiler & motor carbon fiber hood Borla muffler/cat bypass pipes/headers LW flywheel removing all carpet from front & rear trunks lighter battery ....so now I'm autocrossing in F Prepared |
The first time I dynoed the car, it was also lean, and that was before the Softronic flash.
Funny, there's no indication of detonation despite the reading. I've raced the car like this all year. 155,000 miles and she keeps on running. The readings looked around 18:1below 4K RPM, but then they improved to 14:1 above that. |
what maf housing are you using in that setup? if you've got any maf-related fault codes and the car is defaulting to the throttle position to determine airflow, the larger throttle body will mess up your trims.
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I cut the MAF housing from the original airbox. The car isn't throwing any codes, and it has a new MAF and 4 new O2 sensors.
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Interesting, given that time and time again it's been said that there is little in the way of "real HP gains to be had by tweaking the exhaust, especially with cheap Chinese eBay headers and bypass pipes. Are you running without cats?
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They're not likely getting a good exhaust sample on the dyno at lower RPM's. The car wouldn't actually run if it was at 18:1. The probe is probably too short and getting reversion at lower RPM's. They could put the dyno O2 sensor directly in the exhaust if you have a spare bung in the headers or bypass tubes.
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Glad to know that about the O2 sensor
...yes, no cats. |
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Is there a stock Boxster S run on this same dyno to compare? I've seen too much variation between different dynos to hold too much faith in the power gains (though I hope they are real!)
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Seems to only be repeated by those who have the equation Chinese = crap drilled into their heads. My China headers were T304 stainless and they gave the 986 a true HP boost and an upper register snarl as awesome as any car. Simply stated the underpulley and headers IMO were the best two 986 mods. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_direct_injection http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1271770234.jpg |
Hmmm well you learn something everyday.....I had thought anything approaching 16 was way too lean. Perhaps I am over "conditioned from blowing up 2 cycle motor cycle engines
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Yeah, searching for someone to help remove the top is now a ritual at AX events...there are a few folks who volunteer knowing I'm gonna ask! Thank goodness everyone's pretty nice.
When the top is off and I'm out working the course, I get noticeably nervous if clouds begin to gather! |
Dyno on Youtube
And the dyno video...
Rennzenn Boxster screaming on the Dyno - YouTube I had never heard my own car from outside the driver's seat. She's pretty loud! I didn't hear any detonation during any of the Dyno runs. |
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And yes, I do much leaner than stoichiometric (14.7:1) all the time when running a 360CI, magneto timed (fixed @25BTDC) air-cooled flat 4 with the throttle wide open. Can you guess the application? What do you think happens to the combustion event as the mixture goes lean of Stoic? Given that Stoic is the theoretical perfect mix of O2 to fuel. Is having having more O2 some how more combustible? The fastest burn of the most fuel happens just a tad rich of stoic as does the highest internal cylinder pressure thereby giving the lowest detonation margins (not good). At full throttle, this is not where you want the mixture to be. You want to be richer or leaner, but since we are limited by atmospheric pressure with N/A engines and turbine inlet temp with turbocharged engines, it's far easier and practical just to puke gas through it to slow (relatively speaking) the combustion event and cool the exhaust gasses thereby increasing detonation margins. BTW the whole reason behind direct injection is to improve fuel distribution to allow very lean mixtures. In theory this will eliminate the need for a throttle body and the suction losses associated with partial throttle operation. Imagine sucking through a straw with partially cocked butterfly valve; that's what your engine is doing whenever it's not at full throttle. With lean burn engines, the engine management system will just reduce fuel flow, the mixture will get leaner and the engine will produce less power, no suction loss from choking off the intake. Another benefit is little to no unburned hydrocarbons, meaning we may have catless road going cars in our future. I could go on, but I'm digressing! So to come back to the original point, an injected otto cycle engine should run still run at an efficiency ratio of 18:1, whether or not it will grenade in the process depends on throttle position, timing and compression ratio. The ratio in and of itself is not a death sentence... 14.7 to one is actually a hotter, higher pressure place to run |
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