jmatta is absolutely correct - any purchaser of a used Boxster (and there are many of us who can ill afford a new one) could have a similar engine lurking under the hood......
I think both pcs5978 and Jake both have a legit argument - we are not talking peanuts here & I'll bet there is some serious money having to be spent. Imagine this happening to you...... :mad:

In all seriousness, I think that I may have been the recipient of a "fixed" engine also (in the car that I bought). Nothing to do with this seller or anything like that though. I am preparing a reply in the appropriate posting soon though.

Jake has helped me a lot so far with this, and I am 99% sure that I will be buying one of his 3.6 engines before spring.

Jake has helped me a lot so far with this, and I am 99% sure that I will be buying one of his 3.6 engines before spring.

If I didn't have one child in college and another just about to start, I'd be all over the 3.6 upgrade...just have to wait for a while.

"If I didn't have one child in college and another just about to start, I'd be all over the 3.6 upgrade...just have to wait for a while."

Ditto on the cost of children/college sorts of things these days. I think I could have bought about 4 of Jake's trick 3.6's on what we have had to spend recently. But hey, its a great time to get a new morgage and refinance the house, we just did and got 4.3%......

Ed

:)

Thanks guys...

Just wait, the story is getting better!

Anyone have Jerry Springer's phone number??

These are the only boots I've ever worn...
Not very fashionable, but effective.
http://merionfriends.org/boots.jpg

Like millions others, I did it to defend this country... Unfortunately that meant also allowing people like the "seller" and "Phantom Mechanic" to carry out dishonest transactions through their "freedom" to do so..

Man, those things haven't seen a spit shine in awhile! :D

I agree 100%. If forum members can protect other forum members from spending a LOT of $ on these shysters and the problems they create, why wouldn't we share all that we know, including naming names?

Why the diversion to boots and shoes?

Just wondering. :rolleyes:

Things got a bit sidetracked by the posts from new member "thehighheelsgirl"...
everyone kind of forgot about the engine problems for a moment!

I (for one) have been watching this post a couple times daily for updates.

Sorry bout that guys!

no problem welcome.....I am new too

Im pretty sure I could come up with it if you could come up with a monster (400+hp) 3.6 for me... :D :cheers:


I am also checking this a few times a day.. Bruce should start charging a viewing fee for such great material. :cool:

I thought you bought the Boxster in February? Talk to Aaron Holstrum lately?

So, we let the Guy/Girl off the hook, just because he doesn't have ANOTHER broken
engine to sell?

I CALL BS! I say we hang him/her by his NUTS, IF he has any!
:D
BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

BIGGY

This forum will NOT allow any fraud to be perpetrated directly or indirectly through its pages. Thus, if we have a concern raised like this that is both serious and credible, we will allow it to air, subject to the bounds of the rules and good taste. I get to be the arbiter on both counts.

Jake Raby is a sponsor and a straight up guy, who helps us all with his tech insight. We will allow him to continue this most interesting topic.

If this offends you, please skip this thread when you read each day.

Thanks.

:)

Im pretty sure I could come up with it if you could come up with a monster (400+hp) 3.6 for me...


I am also checking this a few times a day.. Bruce should start charging a viewing fee for such great material.

We like to keep the information FREE and free flowing around here.

:D

In my case I bought the car knowing the motor is shot and needs a rebuild (PO overfilled with 4 litres of oil). Here I am lucky as my friend owns an Independant P-Car shop and has sent it out to be rebuilt. His source has been doing Porsche & other high end names for over 20 years. I weight the "fresh crated" from the dealer VS rebuild and decided the rebuild will have 2009 upgrades done to it.

The 3.2 MY2002 from Porsche will be one they have sitting "on the shelf" and not had any updates done to it. It would cost them too much to tear it apart and provide a fix. Rebuilt would be a better option as the latest updates will be installed.

From a technical aspect this engine situation gets even more unbelievable..

Both cylinder heads are not servicable and while they are repairable they are not worth the txpenditure of time or money to do so.

These heads had been resurfaced in the past and had a somewhat bazaar repair made to one of the cam journal surfaces so we decided to use them as a pair of 4,000 buck door stops.

We are currently prepping a set of replacement cylinder heads, we had to purchase another core engine to pull these heads from it.

It gets better. Much better.

More pics later.

It must have been the commercial interuption to the drama we are watching.
:D

Chris

Do you think that the shop that did this work before it was sold is liable?
:eek:

Or is the PERSON, that mis-represented this item liable?
:mad:

BIGGY

I honestly don't know or don't care..
My focus is now only on finally making the purchaser happy by providing something of use so he can finish the season on a positive note.

To do that I have had to move around lots of other projects and I worked here until 0600 this morning before crashing for two hours to help make that happen.

If me or the buyer had more time to screw with all of this, the story might have a different twist.

What he should have done is offer a FULL refund....period. The 3k he got isn't worth his reputation. But people who sell things like this seldom care about their reputation.

I almost bought that engine when my 3.2 failed.

He did offer a refund.. Only after MORE money had been spent to repair this engine than it's initial cost had been. "They" were smart, they knew we would not pull the engine and incur even more cost and down time to get a refund, especially after the first rund of issues had been remedied.

Yes, the member continues to be active here...

To date, myself and my client have incurred a list of expenditures that exceed 15,000.00 when combined. For that I could have built him another 3.6 big bore with all the updates.

Hindsight is 20/20 especially when dealing with those that are not honorable.

$15K plus the +$20K for the eBay engine? Ooouch. For that much you could have bought a 2006 Boxster S with about 30,000 miles. The whole freaking car!

When are we going to start naming names? This post is getting too long with too much drama.

I hope you are getting paid by your client, Jake. Don't keep working for free. And I hope your client does not keep expecting you to work for free. Sounds like he is always looking for a "good deal".

Does your client buy his medical supplies off eBay too? I hope not. Leason learned.

If and when, I ever need a heart surgeon, I am going to make sure he charges a ton of money, and doesn't buy my stint off eBay! :)

This client is more than just someone off the street... He is someone who we have built a relationship with over a period of a year and he hasn't asked for any good deals, nor has he requested that I do anything..

He has become a good friend, someone who helped me when my Dad had some serious heart issues a few months agoi and he is one serious driver that puts the engine on the edge... He was able to do somthing that no one else ever has, he broke my engine.. The oil pump drive key failed. He didn't complain, and he didn't whine and the engine didn't have a warranty, but I OFFERED to repair it and will do so for free.

We were just looking for a dual purpose alternative so he could finish his season and I could repair his broken engine taking it to an even higher level and do so without impacting my (very filled) schedule.

He wants to build more engines and he wants to build another car and he wants to be a part of the development of the M96 and sharing knowledge.

He never had to ask for anything and he isn't looking for good deals... The only reason that engine was bought off Ebay is because it had the lowest mileage of anything we could find and it was represented well.. Much better than anything we could find at a salvage yard, it just so happened that it was ONLY 4K, the price didn't matter.

Trust me, this "purchaser" is the best client I have experienced to date and on top of that he saves the lives of babies one week old or younger on a weekly basis.. Taking his Boxster and hauling ass on the track is how he relaxes, about the only way he relaxes and as far as I am concerned I am only doing whats right and what is honorable, basically just plain fair.

I have zero tolerance for failure. He broke my engine and thats not accaptable; period. It won't happen again.

You'll be seeing a lot of him soon.. His name is Dr. Phil, his alter ego is Mr. Speed...

I want to meet this guy!

SOON!!! He'll probably make his first appearance in Excellence around February 2010 :-)

I'm still a little confused. Was the engine out of the guy's car, from a Cali recycler
or out of a local JY?

Either way, with the work that was obviously done to the engine, the engine
was NOT as advertised.

So, of course, the AS IS/NO WARRANTY contract these two folks had, was broken
by mis-representation on the seller's part.....
:mad:

BIGGY

Phil's a good guy; I was in a bay a few doors down from his car when he was at Mid-OH in early June and he spent a lot of time explaining what all had been done to the car.

The Story
 

There are a few remaining questions that we are trying to answer before the details of this story are presented in this forum. The facts - names, dates, dollars, and documents will be presented with the intent of educating the readers of this forum so they can hopefully avoid the problems we have encountered with this used motor. Stay tuned!

Locking this thread now!
 

To all that are following this thread.

There are a number of unsettling things going on in the background of this saga. In order to sort it out, I am going to lock the thread.

I suggest that all involved (and you know who you are) take a deep breath and go have a beer.

Thanks for your understanding!

BL :)