New Headers and Cats

[jwade]

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger

I've seen the Fabspeed headers. They are a nice product indeed. However, the M&M headers use nickel throughout their design, to include the very best HJS cats that incorporate a true tri-metal configuration.

The difference between these two manufacturers is that Fabspeed constructs theirs from T304 SS and the M&M headers are constructed of T316 SS.

Ni is approx. 8-10.5% in T304.

Ni is 12% in T316. T316 is made for marine environments.

Unless you are exposing your undercarriage to salt, say in a South Florida environment, or Northeast winters, that would be the only benefit of owning the M&M headers.

Hp gains are the same +/-.

[Johnny Danger]

Originally Posted by jwade

The difference between these two manufacturers is that Fabspeed constructs theirs from T304 SS and the M&M headers are constructed of T316 SS.

Ni is approx. 8-10.5% in T304.

Ni is 12% in T316. T316 is made for marine environments.

Unless you are exposing your undercarriage to salt, say in a South Florida environment, or Northeast winters, that would be the only benefit of owning the M&M headers.

Hp gains are the same +/-.

I can assure you, that there is a big difference in the quality of cats that were used. The M&M cats utilize the highest level 200 cell tri-metal design HJS has to offer. By the way, if you took the time to look at my profile you would see that I live in New England. Up here we have snow , salt, rain, oceans ect.. Not that my car ever comes out of the garage unless its sunny. :ah:

[Stroked & Blown]

That's 15% of the value of the car on headers. Jeez.

[Johnny Danger]

Originally Posted by Stroked & Blown

That's 15% of the value of the car on headers. Jeez.

Considering the fact that it would cost me close to 100k to replace my Boxster S with a 2010 with all of the mods my vehicle has, 3k is pocket change.

[2K3_Boxster_S]

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger

Considering the fact that it would cost me close to 100k to replace my Boxster S with a 2010 with all of the mods my vehicle has, 3k is pocket change.

must be nice if 3k was pocket change to me I would be driving a Carrera S instead my poor man's porsche. :dance:

[Johnny Danger]

Originally Posted by 2K3_Boxster_S

must be nice if 3k was pocket change to me I would be driving a Carrera S instead my poor man's porsche. :dance:

I have one of those also. An orange 997 GT3 to be exact. And you will never see an exhaust system sold through Ebay on that vehicle either .

[Kirk]

NICE, VERY, VERY NICE. Thanks for pointing these out as I didn't even know it was an option from FVD. I agree with most folks here that it's pretty spendy though for headers, but I'm not going to criticize your personal choice to buy them for your car. That's your choice! I've had enough flack myself lately because I recently bought a 996 and an older 914 so that I now have 3 Porsches. Everyone at my work criticizes my choices in the cars that I've purchased. Screw them! It's my money and if I'm a car guy I'm not going to drive a freakin' Hyundai to work. Now I drive a '72 914 to work every day. In the same vein, it's your money and God bless you if you want to indulge in such a nice set of headers. I do agree that they do look like especially good quality, even compared to the Fabspeed.

Kirk