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		|  08-31-2009, 06:56 PM | #1 |  
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				Starting Boxster without having to push in the clutch pedal
			 
 
			One thing I liked on my old 944S / 951 / 968 was that I did not have to push in the clutch to start it.  Out of habit, I always shake the shifter to determine if it is in neutral anyway.  Is there a way to disengage the clutch lock out (or interlock) during the start up process?
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		|  08-31-2009, 08:07 PM | #2 |  
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			Flash your car to RoW (Rest of World) software, or disable the clutch interlock at the pedal.
		 
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		|  09-01-2009, 08:22 AM | #3 |  
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			I have disengaged the clutch interlock switch on my 2000 because I too find it a nuisance and unnecessary (old habits die hard). I seem to remember that someone posted that disengaging the switch also effects the cruise control. I can’t rememberwhen I last used cruise control…perhaps when I first bought the car…so I don’t know first hand if this is really an issue.
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		|  09-01-2009, 08:30 AM | #4 |  
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				 I have disengaged the clutch interlock switch on my 2000 because I too find it a nuisance and unnecessary (old habits die hard). I seem to remember that someone posted that disengaging the switch also effects the cruise control. I can’t rememberwhen I last used cruise control…perhaps when I first bought the car…so I don’t know first hand if this is really an issue. |  
There are 2 switches.  One for cruise, one for the starter.  If you short the wires running to the clutch switch, it doesn't effect the cruise and lets you start without the clutch in.
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		|  09-01-2009, 11:13 AM | #5 |  
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			Have not had a chance to look up under the dash yet....maybe this evening.What is the position of the switches?  Which one (cruise or clutch) is on the left or right (or up or down...)?
 
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		|  09-01-2009, 12:32 PM | #6 |  
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				 Have not had a chance to look up under the dash yet....maybe this evening.What is the position of the switches?  Which one (cruise or clutch) is on the left or right (or up or down...)?
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If I remember correctly, there's one that's activated when the clutch is released and one when it's pressed in.  The former is the one to bypass.  You can test it by taping the switch before doing something more permanent.
 
I made a short wire with spades on both ends that shorted the two wires that usually lead to the switch, totally reversible.
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		|  09-01-2009, 12:34 PM | #7 |  
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				Just did it
			 
 
			Disconnected the switch that is to the side of the clutch pedal (on the parts diagram it is listed as part 997-613-109-00).  The other one (red and black switch) is the cruise control disengagement switch.  Wired the two wires together (to create a circuit) and voila....car start in neutral without having to depress the clutch pedal.  Should take you two minutes to do it (which means it took me 5...).
 I like it!!
 
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						Reason: added self-effacing info...
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		|  11-29-2017, 05:54 PM | #8 |  
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				Back to old ways
			 
 
			I suffered for a year or so with the "depress clutch pedal" message. It was intermittent and annoying every time. I bent the switch arm a few times and it would work until the arm fatigued again. 
 Ran a continuity test on switch and it is fine. Just that idiotic arm is weak. Pulled the bracket and used a piece of lite machinist wire to hold the switch closed. Re-installed it and voila!! No more annoying message or crawling under the dash in a parking lot...that was very "unPorsche like"!! It was more like something I would be doing with my old Camaro.
 Thanks for the tips..they all got me thinking about what to do.
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		|  11-29-2017, 06:31 PM | #9 |  
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			The simplest solution is the zip-tie clutch switch hack.  Just zip tie the switch above the clutch pedal so it is permanently depressed.  I did this 10 years ago and have not had any issues.
		 
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		|  11-30-2017, 01:05 PM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by rick3000  The simplest solution is the zip-tie clutch switch hack.  Just zip tie the switch above the clutch pedal so it is permanently depressed.  I did this 10 years ago and have not had any issues. |  
I might do this myself!
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		|  12-01-2017, 03:41 PM | #11 |  
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			Or just cut that mother off and twist the wires together! 2 minutes. Job done.
		 
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		|  12-01-2017, 05:37 PM | #12 |  
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			Haha, didn’t notice that this was an 8 year old post! But still pertinent, what?
		 
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		|  12-21-2017, 10:10 PM | #13 |  
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			Actually, it is recommended to start the car with the clutch in as it takes the load of spinning the trans as well as the engine off the starter. It's even in the manual... crazy
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		|  12-22-2017, 08:45 PM | #14 |  
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			This of course will permit starter action with car in gear, as there is no electrical signal from transmission
		 
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		|  12-29-2017, 01:09 PM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by rick3000  The simplest solution is the zip-tie clutch switch hack.  Just zip tie the switch above the clutch pedal so it is permanently depressed.  I did this 10 years ago and have not had any issues. |  
I zip tied mine years ago. No issues and easy to put back to stock if you ever want to.
		 
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