Engine Disassembly Photos (M96) - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

insite · 04-08-2009, 11:20 AM

not sure if this has been posted here yet, but pelican has put up a series of disassembly photos from a failed boxster motor. enjoy!

http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/Boxster_Tech/Disc162/BoxsterTech-162.htm

RandallNeighbour · 04-08-2009, 12:01 PM

On page three or four, while they are putting in Raby's upgraded IMS bearing, they wrote this:

So, with the old bearing out, we're now going to install the new upgrade bearing available from LN Engineering. This new bearing assembly contains a special exotic ceramic-coated ball bearing integrated with a specially designed, beefy intermediate shaft cover. At the time that this is being written, Pelican Parts is working with Softronic to develop a much less expensive kit that uses parts very similar to the OEM ones.

I think I'd rather spend the extra money to sleep better at night knowing I had a rock-solid IMS bearing in there after all that work pulling the old one.

insite · 04-08-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour

I think I'd rather spend the extra money to sleep better at night knowing I had a rock-solid IMS bearing in there after all that work pulling the old one.

no joke! $600 is cheap insurance.

Jake Raby · 04-08-2009, 05:58 PM

Cheap= What causes these same damn problems to begin with.

There is a required cost. You will spend that required cost now or later. Either way it will be spent.
(or more)

These cars are Porsches, people seem to have forgotten that Porsche is not a name synonomous with an economical vehicle.

Cheap. Fast. Reliable
Choose one.

rob76turbo · 04-08-2009, 06:22 PM

Jake, is yours and the one from LN similar or the same?

Jake Raby · 04-08-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rob76turbo

Jake, is yours and the one from LN similar or the same?

LN Engineering and my company work very closely to develop, test and apply components like the IMS bearing upgrades.

The components that we sell are the same, but the engine program is 100% Flat 6 Innovations as LN does not build engines.

Banana S · 04-09-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake Raby

Cheap. Fast. Reliable
Choose one.

It's "choose two."

spine911 · 04-09-2009, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

Cheap= What causes these same damn problems to begin with.

There is a required cost. You will spend that required cost now or later. Either way it will be spent.
(or more)

These cars are Porsches, people seem to have forgotten that Porsche is not a name synonomous with an economical vehicle.

Cheap. Fast. Reliable
Choose one.

On PURELY ENGINE standpoint, i'll choose three

The Toyota Celica engine....Like on the Elise

, BUT the carbon fiber body is definitely $$$$ to repair.

What can i do, i got bitten by the "Porsche Heritage" bug after 3 Porsches...

insite · 04-09-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by spine911

What can i do, i got bitten by the "Porsche Heritage" bug after 3 Porsches...

hmmm.....pull the boxster motor & replace w/ a subaru flat-4?

70Sixter · 04-09-2009, 11:59 AM

No Subie. Maybe one of Jake's Type IVs.

Jake Raby · 04-09-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Banana S

It's "choose two."

Nope.. In my world its only one... At least when working with Porsches.

Cheap and fast ain't happening!

fragdude · 04-09-2009, 04:22 PM

I like how on the article it says that a level 1 is adding air to your tires and a level 10 is rebuilding a porsche engine. As it says for every pelican parts article.

But for this article (rebuilding a Boxster engine) its a level 4. Maybe Boxster engines are simpler than regular (911) Porsche engines?

insite · 04-09-2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fragdude

But for this article (rebuilding a Boxster engine) its a level 4. Maybe Boxster engines are simpler than regular (911) Porsche engines?

ah, but they only DISASSEMBLED the motor! putting it all back together properly is a bit more of a challenge!

spine911 · 04-09-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by insite

ah, but they only DISASSEMBLED the motor! putting it all back together properly is a bit more of a challenge!

It's always easier to break things, eh...LOL

spine911 · 04-09-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by insite

hmmm.....pull the boxster motor & replace w/ a subaru flat-4?

Nah, how about using THE Toyota 2UR-GSE* engine ?? In my dreams!!

Now that's a killer...LOL

*AKA, IS-F 5.0 V-8 engine

Banana S · 04-10-2009, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

Nope.. In my world its only one... At least when working with Porsches.

Cheap and fast ain't happening!

Sure it is. Slap an e-bay turbo on it, or a 200-shot of nitrous, and you have cheap and fast.

...but you will have a bit of a reliability problem.

I hope you don't really mean what you're suggesting, though... That fast and reliable is not a combination that you can put together... At least, I hope that's not what you mean, for the sake of your business. (Particularly since I may be a customer of yours in the next couple of years.

)

spyder803 · 04-10-2009, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by fragdude

I like how on the article it says that a level 1 is adding air to your tires and a level 10 is rebuilding a porsche engine. As it says for every pelican parts article.

But for this article (rebuilding a Boxster engine) its a level 4. Maybe Boxster engines are simpler than regular (911) Porsche engines?

I thought that was funny as well, so much that I let the wife read over it and she thought it was ridiculous as well.

She commented that maybe they didn't know how to put it back together.

fragdude · 04-10-2009, 09:02 AM

If you guys are interested, there is actually a series of videos on youtube of a guy putting together a 3.2 boxster motor from basically scratch.

Here is the start:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCZBJHSvLCw

Jake Raby · 04-10-2009, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fragdude

If you guys are interested, there is actually a series of videos on youtube of a guy putting together a 3.2 boxster motor from basically scratch.

Here is the start:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCZBJHSvLCw

Those are good videos, but lots of critical things are not gone over...

I'll be posting a complete build up of a 2.9 Performance engine on my site in the coming days.

spine911 · 04-10-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake Raby

I'll be posting a complete build up of a 2.9 Performance engine on my site in the coming days.

Hey Jake,

Where are those dyno reports you promised us (re: exhaust performance) weeks ago?? I can't wait to see them.
Might as well post the exhaust dyno reports, with the build up report, timing DVD...etc...etc.

I just love it when you keep on teasing us...lol..