Short Shift Kit Advice?

[CT986S]

I did just install the 997 (010 series) shifter over the weekend. All I can say is WOW. After all the short shift kits I tried in Miatadom I was leery of getting something "notchy", but this is amazing. By my measurement w/out the shiftknob the 1 - 2 shift on my S has gone down 1 inch. Doesn't sound like much, but feels amazing because shifting is much more precise, and there is no notchiness whatsoever.

Thanks Blink, sorry it took so long.
Kevin

PS. I did much research on the install, and getting the shiftknob off is the hard part. I went right for the brute force and ignorance method - top-down stand with one foot on each side of the console and pull straight up. If it doesn't come off -pull harder .
It came off on the second try for me with this method.

[23109VC]

so is this a part I get at the dealer b/c it's an OEM porsche part? or is this an aftermarket part? I'm confused....

I drove a 911 that had a short shift kit and it felt hard and notchy to shift. i hated it. yeah the throws were short but it felt like $hit.

i want stock feel for smoothness, just a short throw. whatever you are refering to here sounds like what i want.

where do i get it?
can i install this myself - is it relatively easy or do i need a dealer/mechanic to put it in?

this is just the shift parts of ra stock 997?

Originally Posted by CT986S

I did just install the 997 (010 series) shifter over the weekend. All I can say is WOW. After all the short shift kits I tried in Miatadom I was leery of getting something "notchy", but this is amazing. By my measurement w/out the shiftknob the 1 - 2 shift on my S has gone down 1 inch. Doesn't sound like much, but feels amazing because shifting is much more precise, and there is no notchiness whatsoever.

Thanks Blink, sorry it took so long.
Kevin

PS. I did much research on the install, and getting the shiftknob off is the hard part. I went right for the brute force and ignorance method - top-down stand with one foot on each side of the console and pull straight up. If it doesn't come off -pull harder .
It came off on the second try for me with this method.

[chaudanova]

I've got a brand new B&M Short Shift Kit available for sale if you, or anyone else is interested... PM me!

[23109VC]

what is the difference between the 997 series 010 SSK that is mentioned a few posts above, vs the B&M or Schnell or other aftermarket kits?

I do NOT want it all stiff feeling.

I just want the throw shorter and I want the feel of the shifter to be more precise. right now the shifter is loose/sloppy feeling and the throw is too long.

any suggestions?

is this an easy DIY project? if I wuss out and paid a dealer or shop to do this, what is a FAIR (not stealership) price?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by 23109VC

what is the difference between the 997 series 010 SSK that is mentioned a few posts above, vs the B&M or Schnell or other aftermarket kits?

I do NOT want it all stiff feeling.

I just want the throw shorter and I want the feel of the shifter to be more precise. right now the shifter is loose/sloppy feeling and the throw is too long.

any suggestions?

is this an easy DIY project? if I wuss out and paid a dealer or shop to do this, what is a FAIR (not stealership) price?

I can tell you now all the aftermarket SSK's are notchy and they increase shift effort. The install is not that hard if you have a few simple tools and you're fairly mechanical. I've never tried the 997 shifter, but it sounds like the way to go.

[ekam]

Originally Posted by 23109VC

what is the difference between the 997 series 010 SSK that is mentioned a few posts above, vs the B&M or Schnell or other aftermarket kits?

I do NOT want it all stiff feeling.

I just want the throw shorter and I want the feel of the shifter to be more precise. right now the shifter is loose/sloppy feeling and the throw is too long.

any suggestions?

is this an easy DIY project? if I wuss out and paid a dealer or shop to do this, what is a FAIR (not stealership) price?

Unlike all the SSK out there, the 9x7 shifter assembly is literally a drop-in item. I did it in little over an hour following the DIY instruction and I was trying to be overly cautious not to break/scratch anything.

http://www.turbo911.com/showthread.php?t=282

[sb01box]

if my question is redundant, please accept my apology.
I'm considering upgrading the shifter unit of my 01 boxster mainly to replace the plastic fastener of the main shift cable with aluminum/steel unit (EVO or Schnell). at the same time change to a shorter throw.
in reading discussion threeads here and at other forums, it seems that most aftermarket units just extend the bottom part of the shifter rather than 997 short shifter which moves the pivot point higher while maintaining the shifter to linkage position inline with the cable. to me, it seems that the 997 short shifter is a better solution and prevents unwanted bending of the cable and possible drag on the tray and carpet under the shifter. (if in error forgive me, no real hands on, just reading and pictures)
if my assumption is correct then my question is "why the aftermarket mfgs do not duplicate the mechanical dimension of the 997 ss?" 25% versus 35% reduction?
thanks in advance
tad

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by sb01box

if my question is redundant, please accept my apology.
I'm considering upgrading the shifter unit of my 01 boxster mainly to replace the plastic fastener of the main shift cable with aluminum/steel unit (EVO or Schnell). at the same time change to a shorter throw.
in reading discussion threeads here and at other forums, it seems that most aftermarket units just extend the bottom part of the shifter rather than 997 short shifter which moves the pivot point higher while maintaining the shifter to linkage position inline with the cable. to me, it seems that the 997 short shifter is a better solution and prevents unwanted bending of the cable and possible drag on the tray and carpet under the shifter. (if in error forgive me, no real hands on, just reading and pictures)
if my assumption is correct then my question is "why the aftermarket mfgs do not duplicate the mechanical dimension of the 997 ss?" 25% versus 35% reduction?
thanks in advance
tad

All short shifters other than the "swift shift kit" from Evolution motorsports move the pivot point up. To the best that I can tell, the B&M, clones, and 9x6 factory short shifters all have the same geometry. The Schnell is a little shorter on the linkage side and probably doesn't move the fulcrum as far from stock as the others. None have problems with the pivot point getting too close to the floor.

From the pictures I've seen, the factory 9x7 short shifter also uses the same geometry as B&M, but uses a plastic housing rather than the aluminum 9x6 version.

Many of us have discovered that the standard shifter noted earlier provided on most 9x7 cars provides a nice, shorter shift without excessive notchiness and is the preferred alternative to the standard 9x6 shifter. This is not a short shift kit, it is standard on most of the newer models. This part also includes the shifter housing and the plastic cable ends, so you wouldn't need to buy the aluminum parts you talked about.

[Dai]

Originally Posted by CT986S

I did just install the 997 (010 series) shifter over the weekend. All I can say is WOW. After all the short shift kits I tried in Miatadom I was leery of getting something "notchy", but this is amazing. By my measurement w/out the shiftknob the 1 - 2 shift on my S has gone down 1 inch. Doesn't sound like much, but feels amazing because shifting is much more precise, and there is no notchiness whatsoever.

Thanks Blink, sorry it took so long.
Kevin

Kevin, did you installed 997 shifter into your Boxster S? I didn't know that you can do that. Did you have to replace the entire shifter module? Thanks.
Dai

[blinkwatt]

Let me clear some stuff up.

THE NEW GENERATION 9X7 STOCK SHIFTING ASSEMBLY IS A REDUCTION FROM THE STOCK 9X6 ASSEMBLY.

As far as I know the OEM 9x6 short shift assembly is the same as the 9x7 short shift assembly. I can't verify this though. The B & M part no for them though is the same and B & M makes the OEM short shift kits.

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by blinkwatt

Let me clear some stuff up.

THE NEW GENERATION 9X7 STOCK SHIFTING ASSEMBLY IS A REDUCTION FROM THE STOCK 9X6 ASSEMBLY.

I think that's been stated three or four times already.

Originally Posted by blinkwatt

As far as I know the OEM 9x6 short shift assembly is the same as the 9x7 short shift assembly. I can't verify this though. The B & M part no for them though is the same and B & M makes the OEM short shift kits.

According the Geoff, that's not the case. The 9x6 and 9x7 SS are clearly of different construction and from his statement, they are different in geometry. B&M does not make the 9x7 SS, only the 9x6 version.

[blinkwatt]

Originally Posted by blue2000s

According the Geoff, that's not the case. The 9x6 and 9x7 SS are clearly of different construction and from his statement, they are different in geometry. B&M does not make the 9x7 SS, only the 9x6 version.

Who makes the 9x7 Short Shift Kit?

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by blinkwatt

Who makes the 9x7 Short Shift Kit?

Looks like it's a Porsche design. Check out his link a few posts up.

[geoff]

Here are a few pictures that might help with understanding what the 9x7 short shifter looks like. To compare to a 986 shifter, lift up your leather shift boot and look inside. I took these pictures before I installed it a while ago, and it has the alignment tool snapped on. The OEM 9x7 short shifter comes in the shifter housing and also comes with a handy little alignment tool that helps you get the shift cables adjusted if you have messed them up or they have stretched. As far as I know, nobody has ever come up with a cable adjustment tool for the B&M short shifter, the Porsche 986 short shifter, Schnell or any of the other knockoffs

I hope these pictures help clear up any confusion as to what the 9x7 short shifter looks like. I haven't seen one of the regular (i.e., not short) 9x7 shifters, so I can't compare the two

Here is the assembly viewed from the left side. You can see the construction is like the stock 986 short shifter except the plastic is blue instead of white and there is a metal reinforcing or stiffening plate



And here is a view of the right side. You may or may not be able to tell that the bolt that the shifter pivots on is higher than the original 986 shifter



and just to help visualize how this fits on, here is a picture of the alignment tool that comes with the setup

[blue2000s]

Here's the standard 9x7 on my 2000. You can see, the pivot point is just slightly higher than the 9x6 stock, maybe a bit less than 1/4", and it uses the metal plate, like the 9x7SSK on the side-to-side.





I had the B&M clone before I installed this and thought I was happy. But after using this shifter, I have absolutely no desire for anything else.