Che @ delubozparts Rear Track Arms GB $249.99 Shipped

[CJ_Boxster]

Well for one thing, the price over stock is better. a set of Che's are cheaper than just 1 arm from the dealer, 2, if your caster needs adjustment for whatever reason, you can finally adjust it cause the boxster doesnt come with caster adjustment and this will give you that... I know there are afew boxsters out there have have bumped a curb or two pretty hard so the passenger front caster is probably negative and the front track arms will allow you to adjust it back forward.

Plus the factory part eventually wears out on the inside of the bearing cartridge and starts to chatter really loud over cracks and bumps in the road.

[RandallNeighbour]

Carlos, thanks for that explanation. You've described my boxster. I can't get it into perfect alignment up front. It's just a little negative according to the Hunter computerized alignment equipment.

I'm going to call my shop and ask them if these new front suspension parts will allow me to get my front tires in full alignment without another pull on the frame machine.

BTW, I didn't slam the car into a curb, but evidently, a previous owner spun out and hit the front right and rear left and got the car all bent out of shape.

[thomschoon]

i was wondering if these parts were TUV approved or had some other certifications as they would be holding my car together? I looked at the Hardrace site and it isnt very clear to where the parts are made other then being based in Taiwan, just wondering about quality as the price is half of what the GT3 equivalents would cost.

Thanks for any input

Thom

[delubozparts]

Originally Posted by thomschoon

i was wondering if these parts were TUV approved or had some other certifications as they would be holding my car together? I looked at the Hardrace site and it isnt very clear to where the parts are made other then being based in Taiwan, just wondering about quality as the price is half of what the GT3 equivalents would cost.

Thanks for any input

Thom

Hi Thom,

About 80% of Aftermarket parts are not TUV or certifications, these aftermarket products are developed and tested on particular vehicle to making sure the parts functioned & withhold the Track and road conditions. As TUV certifications are mainly applied for wheels, as for as quaility concern there are some members already installed and saw the quality of these Rear Track arms, perhaps anyone could post and share more info's other than word of mine. Thank you !



Che

[JP-s-in st. louis]

I hate to ask but is there a chance of a group buy or a discount if you purchase all 3 maybe both?

[delubozparts]

Originally Posted by JP-s-in st. louis

I hate to ask but is there a chance of a group buy or a discount if you purchase all 3 maybe both?

Hi JP-s-in st.louis,

For All 3 Sets Combo Special GB Price is $619.99 Shipped within 48 States USA,For International is $714.99

Thank you !

Che

[JP-s-in st. louis]

Originally Posted by delubozparts

Hi JP-s-in st.louis,

For All 3 Sets Combo Special GB Price is $619.99 Shipped within 48 States USA,For International is $714.99

Thank you !

Che

OK I will bite..I will order next week when I can install them. My guy that does the alignment and corner ballance is at daytona testing now and will not be back till after the 24hr race. thannks

[CJ_Boxster]

Originally Posted by delubozparts

Hi Thom,

As for as quaility concern there are some members already installed and saw the quality of these Rear Track arms, perhaps anyone could post and share more info's other than word of mine. Thank you !



Che

I have the rear track arms and right out the box you can tell they are sturdy, I cant remember how far back i installed them but its been probably more than 6 months since i first installed them, they are still working flawlessly, taken the box to a track day at fontana speedway, get sideways on some left hand turns now and then and i have burned rubber and taken high speed corners with the control arms installed, They havent shown any signs of failure.

[thomschoon]

Originally Posted by delubozparts

Hi Thom,

As TUV certifications are mainly applied for wheels,



Che

Not quite true, if you want to make any changes on your car in Germany you need a TUV approval sticker on the part, the certify many things. The reason I was asking is that while many members may have seen the parts and I am sure they are happy, I am also an old guy who spends two weeks each month in Asia visiting factories so I am a cynic when it comes to quality claims.

[delubozparts]

Originally Posted by thomschoon

Not quite true, if you want to make any changes on your car in Germany you need a TUV approval sticker on the part, the certify many things. The reason I was asking is that while many members may have seen the parts and I am sure they are happy, I am also an old guy who spends two weeks each month in Asia visiting factories so I am a cynic when it comes to quality claims.

Hi Thom,

I pretty much do the same thing as you, I saw many factories/manufactures in Asia like you had mentioned some are ridiculous on their facility and Quality control, but if a particular facility are managed by a individual from here (USA) really makes a difference on products. As TUV certifications may applied to Germany as I'm not familar due to my business are conducted here in USA, I apologized if my claim are for the wheels only.

BTW This is Link from the manufacturer that produced these Suspension parts:

http://hardrace.com/quality.asp

Owner had lived & educated here in USA and had knowledge of Quality Control and what type of material requirment for suspension components, HardRace had manufactured many products for Japan and USA Markets with Excellent reputations.


Cheers !

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by delubozparts

Hi Thom,

I pretty much do the same thing as you, I saw many factories/manufactures in Asia like you had mentioned some are ridiculous on their facility and Quality control, but if a particular facility are managed by a individual from here (USA) really makes a difference on products. As TUV certifications may applied to Germany as I'm not familar due to my business are conducted here in USA, I apologized if my claim are for the wheels only.

Cheers !

Thom makes an excellent point about Chinese suppliers. One of the main issue that I've dealt with from Chinese suppliers is product consistency. Part to part variation can be ridiculously high.

However, as Che points out, there are some excellent manufacturers in China as well. But if you don't go there to inspect the facilities and ensure that they have all the appropriate tooling for manufacturing and quality control, chances are you're not going to end up with a quality product. Hopefully, Che's manufacturer has a continuous dimensional quality inspection process with some random destructive testing. There's a concern with raw material quality as received by the manufacturer as well, which leads to the need for rigorous incoming inspection measures.

A couple of members on this board reporting on how well the parts work shouldn't be enough proof for anyone who's really concerned about the quality of these parts.

[chrisngo]

Originally Posted by thomschoon

i was wondering if these parts were TUV approved or had some other certifications as they would be holding my car together? I looked at the Hardrace site and it isnt very clear to where the parts are made other then being based in Taiwan, just wondering about quality as the price is half of what the GT3 equivalents would cost.

Thanks for any input

Thom

I am not going to knock the quality of the parts, I am only going to comment on the TUV aspect.

TUV cert's, from what I have researched, are used for parts being exported to Germany with the intent of being used on public highways.

Considering the parts are from Taiwan (maybe even China) and all they really do is copy existig designs, I am sure there was no money invested into the certification (whether TUV or anything else). It's very difficult to find a Taiwan manufacturer that is willing to go the extra mile and get saftey cert's.

From experience, I have seen and used different links that were manufactured in Taiwan and for the most part they hold up very well on FLAT roads. They aren't going to break on bumpy roads, but they do undergo much more dynamic stresses. This is as opposed to linear stresses on a flat road coourse.

I've seen links break from driving over potholes...but this is a rare occurrence.

If the vehicle is going to be tracked then by all means. I would invest in a set of rods regardless of track duties or daily driving duties.

Just my thoughts.
Chris

[CJ_Boxster]

Originally Posted by chrisngo

If the vehicle is going to be tracked then by all means. I would invest in a set of rods regardless of track duties or daily driving duties.

Just my thoughts.
Chris

Do you mean, u would invest in a set of TUV cert rods or che's rods?

[chrisngo]

Che's rods.

Chris