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Originally Posted by jbs986 (Post 272912)

Wow, Ok here we go............

Fact, Obama health care bill,this was Obama's baby. He said if it past that all Americans Health care would go down, and everyone would have health care coverage.....Wrong! Fact everyones heath care cost has gone up it will still go higher.Fact their is more people without health care coverage now then before Obama's health care bill was past.

Obama's health care bill forces all Business to proved health care for their employees and if you are an employee with really a really good health care plain you get to pay taxes on it.

You are entitled to you opinions but you are not entitled to your own facts.

Likewise. Health care goes up every year. I get one or two years then have to change plans because of no regulation. This year, under the new health care laws, my wife's "pre-existing" condition is covered where it wasn't before. Win.

I own several businesses, there is NO requirement to provide health care for employees.

As long as you post any minimally or patently untrue (even if misunderstood) "facts" I will yank your chain. Always.

That said there is only one fact that anyone on this forum has to agree with and that's our enjoyment of Porsche automobiles. So while I may rub, rile, annoy, antagonize, irritate, or infuriate you over these political posts - I will be doing it, from my end, with a smile on my face. There is nothing you or I can say or do that would, in any way, on this planet or another change what will be in the political future landscape. Nor will anything that will be, be altered or changed by anyone in our pay grade.

If you let me get to you, I will, and I won't lose sleep over it. I come from a background that includes not only being raised in a highly political and influential family, and that has afforded me the ability, and situations, to vociferously debate face-to-face Patrick Buchanan and the likes (opposite political views) and also do so without getting annoyed with you or any other forum expert on any topic. So enjoy the joust and drive safely. ;)

This section of the forum, for me, is like Las Vegas - nothing said here leaves here.

By no means are you upsetting me or annoying me my friend,I am sorry to hear about your wifes pre-existing condition yes you win but bear in-mind that we are all paying for it, in higher premiums.

Your Business my not have to pay employee health care but most are, that is why there have been hundreds of wavers for some business not to have to pay, Mc Donald being one of them, but please don't take my word for it,just google it, it's all there.

By saying you come from a highly political and influential family, I take it that you must be a Democrat.:)

If so, anything said here or anywhere, is not going to change your mind.

No minds are changed on the Internet as far as I can see.

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Originally Posted by Brucelee (Post 273031)

No minds are changed on the Internet as far as I can see.

Boy, if that's not true.

Wages vs. Inflation

Private Sector vs. Government Jobs

Population Growth.....Flat Job Growth

Who Holds our Debt?

Wars or Invasions?

Which is it?

And please name the invasions we are involved in?

So far, you cite only Iraq.

YOUR ORIGINAL STATEMENT:
"Mr. Obama has pulled us out of unnecessary wars"

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Originally Posted by MileHighBoxster (Post 272888)

Dude. How many unneccessary foreign invasions do you need? One is too many. Getting Iraq behind us will stimulate not only our economy but (hopefully) other country's as well.

Dude...I just want to know who/where we invaded?

Dont you know that Wars are historically good for the economy?

I' d love to see a chart laying out Moochelle"s expenses on the taxpayers dime !!

Ask and ye shall recieve

FIRST LADY OF LUXURY TRAVEL: HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE OBAMAS' LAVISH GETAWAYS OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS

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GIRLS' TRIP TO SPAIN: AUGUST 2010

The exact cost is unclear as Mrs Obama and her 40 friends footed many personal expenses, such as hotels and meals themselves.

But the U.S. taxpayer would have paid for the First Lady's 68-strong security detail, personal staff, and use of presidential jet Air Force Two.

Per diems for the secret service team runs at around $281 each - nearly $98,000 for the length of the summer break.

Use of Air Force Two, the Air Force version of a 757, comes in at $149,900 for the round trip. This does not include time on the ground.

Mrs Obama's personal staff, of which there are an unknown amount and might cost considerably more per day, should also be taken into account.

CHRISTMAS BREAK IN HAWAII: DECEMBER 2010

According to the Hawaii Reporter, the bill for the $1.5m trip included:

$63,000 on an early flight bringing Mrs Obama and the children to Hawaii ahead of the President.
$1,000,000 on Mr Obama’s return trip from Washington on Air Force One.
$38,000 for the ‘Winter White House’ beach property rental.
$16,000 to rent nearby homes for Secret Service and Navy Seals.
$134,000 for 24 White House staff to stay at the Moana Hotel.
$251,000 in police overtime.
$10,000 for an ambulance to be on hand at all times

SKI TRIP TO VAIL: FEBRUARY 2011

Mrs Obama and her daughters stayed at the Sebastian hotel on Vail Mountain, where rooms cost more than $2,400 for multi-bedroom suites.

The family appear to have flown there on Air Force Two.

They were escorted to the resort by a motorcade of about a dozen vehicles, including 15 state and local law enforcement officers

SUMMER HOLIDAY ON MARTHA'S VINEYARD: AUGUST 2011

The Blue Heron Farm estate, where the Obama family are currently staying, rents for about $50,000 a week.

According to U.S. News and World Report, the Coast Guard is required to keep ships floating near the property, the presidential helicopter and jet remain at the ready and security agents will be on 24-hour duty.

And she didn't surrender her license to practise law facing dis-barrment, right ! :cool:

WOW ! I have been gone for a while and want to thank John99 and MR DANGER for saying exactly what I wanted to say. This "Fake " of a President is an insult to this Great Country which my family helped to build. I have their whole history. So ....Do not preach to me. I have built 3 business's from the ground up .....with no help and no money. JUST GUTS AND HARD WORK 7 DAYS A WEEK !!! So you can see where I have no respect. Please forgive me as I am a real nice guy ...until I hear the word...Obama . Sick . I am again.

[QUOTE=John99Boxster;273100] We invaded Iraq. And you obviously have never been involved in any conflict more severe than whether or not to have fries with your burger. As one who spent more than 20 years actually wearing a uniform, war is never good for anyone. Since you are completely ignorant on the effects of war, I won't discuss this anymore on this forum. No one who has actually seen war (I don't mean Band Of Brothers) speaks of it as cavalier as you.

John/Millie - if you actually read things you'ld know I was in the military. And my bio would read born in Denver, and while Steve may be too decent to say it, NO one at Langley says they worked at Langley, it's the first rule of Langley. You're a broken poser. If you want people to respond to your $h!t for mouth, keep your posts on one thread. What was your MOS? As I stated before, I doubt you saw any combat, even if you were stationed somewhere other's did. Did your DD-214 read "cowardly discharge"? For someone who says they did something, me thinks you protest too much. As I stated before, no one who speaks of war as cavalierly as you, ever heard bullets whizzing past their head. Poser.

" HOLD THE PHONE MISS MURPHY !!!" Mile High, Have you seen John99's wounds ? From his service to this great country ? Obama... show us your wounds !!!!!