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Nine8Six 01-19-2017 02:46 AM

Custom Center Caps for Porsche Wheel [from CAD, prototyping to finish]
 
So let’s make something together!

Some of you already know that I am a bit of a wheel gaga and often looking for ways to make my wheels look kool’er. Keeping them surgically clean in & out is obviously not enough, installing LEDs on the valve stem is not-an-option, and modifying/compromising the structure of the wheel in any ways is somehow less than smart.

Therefore, this leaves me with no other options than the center of rotation, the hollow area; The Great Center Cap!!!

Many will have seen the center cap I’ve designed and published here 3 years ago. They are Carrera GT Center Lock “Style” wheel caps (replicas, pic below). They were initially meant at replacing the boring and style-less plastic center caps my (at the time) expansive wheels came with.

Long story short; they came out pretty good and served (to the eye) just perfectly! Almost so good (loll) that today, those same CGT style CC are being copied by a-lot of our fellow Chinese aftermarket car parts mfg. Country-wide (no affiliations in any ways). They became quite popular and being sold by the dozen each week. That’s right - I regularly keep an eye on these folks’ Alibaba, eBay and Taobao stores to track how they are doing. I always order the stuff I do from those guys just to see how they manufacture them cheaper (Chinese are Masters at this!), final product quality, etc, etc. A hobby I have with all the parts that I’ve done in the past which are still being copied by the thousands today (e.g. adjustable race clip-ons, adj rearsets, adj/foldable levers, few others… mostly race bike parts). We’ve done quite good dosh with this work in the pass ;)

So why am I saying all this, well, mainly because we are bored of the One & Only style available and need another one I guess. Almost urgent; Club friends locally here have been asking for this since quite a while now so I’ll finally deliver what I’ve promised in the past. They’ll still remain for Porsche wheels only, but looking slightly different. And perhaps, who knows, we’ll come up with a new GT Series (design variations).

Inspired from other DIY I’ve done in the pass, I’ll share with you the whole process; touching CAD/CAE/CAM, validations and other PLM involved for getting a product designed, prototyped, manufactured and hopefully, packaged.

Hope you’ll all enjoy as much as I do :)

F.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1651/2...d57c1cff_c.jpg
[Original CGT Style Center Cap ]

Nine8Six 01-19-2017 02:54 AM

For now, I need to come up with a cap that reassemble the GT3 center lock (most wanted/requested for), does not protrude as much out of the wheel (for those with non-concave wheels), and it has to be far much easier to install than the previous one - which needed the wheel to be taken off, etc.

All very challenging but I think we can pull this off. I'll update as I progress with sketches and proto visuals.

If I am boring you to death, please do not change channel as this may only become more interesting in the future. Certainly not interesting during the initial phase and I apologize in advance ;)

ps: I promise we'll eventually do performance parts in the future; links, suspension, adj arms, intake improvements for the "Two-point-Fivers" loll stuff like that.

tommy583 01-19-2017 04:51 AM

Yes Fred we need intake improvements for the 2.5 for sure. Glad to see you are getting back into the swing of things :D

Nine8Six 01-19-2017 06:56 AM

GT3 center caps first!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tommy583 (Post 523364)
Yes Fred we need intake improvements for the 2.5 for sure. Glad to see you are getting back into the swing of things :D

Ah, yes, the turbo-kit v2.50 ;) We surely need that eventually having been let down completely during the last 20 years. However and for now, the GT3 Center Caps that every one is asking me for are far more important. Need to get this done... and besides, cool-lookin center caps offers far more horsepower (using the bling-dyno of course).

Funny you mention though, because you'll be pleased to hear I've actually did the prototype model already. Was playing with the idea a few weeks ago only. Regardless, we have the CFD ready for the crop of engineers here to see and contribute to the proof of concept. We'll be able to cancel stalls, adjust geometry based of optimized velocities in various air densities, temperatures and pressures.

Technically speaking; we'll be making the stock plenum in our Super 2.5 liter flat kick car comparable to the PVC pipe found in hardware stores today :D Stay tuned (exclusive to 2.5 only, sorry )

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ps: Hey back to you Tommy! good to see you around again bud

BIGJake111 01-19-2017 08:43 AM

I've learned to love this sort of stuff, I work with the universities Formula SAE team on the business side of things. It's fantastic to see people creating useful components from an idea to an integral part of our car!

Nine8Six 01-19-2017 11:35 PM

Sketch & features for the main cap
 
Well, ladies and gentlemen, congratulations on your new president! Looked pretty cool from the News clipping angle :cheers:

Without wasting time, and more importantly than all forms of world-politics (combined), is the Great Center Cap! I did try a lot of different revolving curves & shapes and came up with this. Not 100% final but there, we’ll start with this. So far I've only shown it to my neighbor(loll) and a friend who, actually, deserve the credit for the GT3 style center cap idea, and surprisingly, he confirmed that we are going in the right direction.

So it all appears to be good geometry and a good starting point to base the remaining of the assembly onto (e.g. planed adapter, center with crest, etc).

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1484899739.jpg

^ The most frequent request I had during the years was “less protruding out of the wheel”. To comply with this, I’ve come down from the 42mm (CGT style) down to 13mm (GT3 Style). For those guys with non-concave hub wheels, this will be a better option (visually).


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^ Here you are looking at the base sketch for the revolving feature of the main cap along with the distance between the outer edge of the wheel hub and end side of the cap.


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^ Once revolved, the geometry look pretty prismatic in nature. What we are looking at here is the stock that will require turn machining operations (material AL6061).


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^ Then goes the main cap feature to give it the look & feel. Although not an exact replica of the official GT3 center lock in terms of lock/tool features, it is pretty close and (to me) quite attractive. Simple! We are trying hard to get in features in a as-simple-as-possible way to avoid the ‘too busy’ effect, but also to make it easy later in rendering to achieve a good curve continuity and lighting reflections. After all, it is a cosmetic part more than a functional one so we might as well put energy in the bling area instead!


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^ Those features; simple revolution of extrusions with a radius of 1mm (highlighted in orange) at the floor end. Again, all useful geometry for rendering purposes, and also very machine-able with a dedicated bullnose carbide cutter. The hollow center is obviously to accommodate a separate part having the crest or club logo stamped dead center. This part is separated from the main cap mainly because it will be in a totally different color than the rest of the assembly (most likely silver).

I’ll do this part later. Again, all subject for changes but so far this is what I am aiming for.

Nine8Six 01-20-2017 01:09 AM

Under (basic) lighting conditions in neutral tones. Meaningless to you guys I know but you'll soon see where I'm going with all this.

I'll update as soon as I'm done with the Center. Hopefully by tomorrow this should all start looking like a center cap loll

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kjc2050 01-20-2017 03:58 AM

Subscribed, Fred; thanks!!

PaulE 01-20-2017 05:45 AM

I like where this is going!

Nine8Six 01-20-2017 08:15 AM

The Center's Center ;)
 
Thanks guys!

Right. Here goes the most complex car part known to man kind loll

So... Center is done. This will snap right in the center of the cap and accommodate a P shield that I am already familiar with. I'll assemble all this together tomorrow if all goes as planed (e.g wife going shopping) and get this to render.

Next is the wheel hub adapter. I already had the concept in mind since a few days already but until I have a proof of concept to see for myself, I won't publish. Might actually need a few days for this part alone :/

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mavis.d 01-20-2017 10:10 AM

Just love your projects Fred

BruceH 01-20-2017 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mavis.d (Post 523570)
Just love your projects Fred

Same here :cheers:

Nine8Six 01-20-2017 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mavis.d (Post 523570)
Just love your projects Fred

Ah some old friend :cheers:

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceH (Post 523575)
Same here :cheers:

Hey Captain. Hmm must feel different from seeing all the 'advanced' aerospace parts you get to see all week/flights long. Very flattering comment from you Sir, if you are being serious:D

BruceH 01-20-2017 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 523585)
Ah some old friend :cheers:



Hey Captain. Hmm must feel different from seeing all the 'advanced' aerospace parts you get to see all week/flights long. Very flattering comment from you Sir, if you are being serious:D

Very serious:D Let's see, I have your headlights and your wind deflector! Keep feeling better Fred!

tommy583 01-20-2017 12:23 PM

Fred I'm in for a pre order of a set in silver. Um throw me in for a super upgrade plenum as well :)

Nine8Six 01-21-2017 01:07 AM

Assembly and weight
 
Well, success RE the wife going shopping ;) I have fresh and imported Cheddar Cheese to put on my toasts tonight and the dogs have their weekly cow-bones to finally get busy with. Hmm sharing with you what a typical Saturday night looks like here in Shanghai (loll we're getting old).

Not so much success on the rendering of the parts however. Not sure what's happening but the rendering PC I use here is blowing its life out of the cooling fan each and every time I switch it ON. Fear the CPU will melt if I use it - Hopefully I'll be able to fix that later myself :/

In a meantime, I have those which I think is sufficient for now. Surely gives a good idea of where this is going. Another good news is the kit only weight 77grams. Ultra-Light if you ask me.

I think we've done an amazing job so far. More to come on the wheel hub adapter in a few days. Cheese Toasts first :p

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911monty 01-21-2017 06:45 AM

This thread is fantastic! Not often you get to see the inner workings of a master artist at work. Guess a Cheese Toast will have to do... :cheers:

BruceH 01-21-2017 07:54 AM

I definitely like the lower profile, they are looking great Fred! My Saturday nights are not so exciting either :cheers:

Anker 01-21-2017 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 523649)
Not so much success on the rendering of the parts however. Not sure what's happening but the rendering PC I use here is blowing its life out of the cooling fan each and every time I switch it ON. Fear the CPU will melt if I use it - Hopefully I'll be able to fix that later myself :/

Bring the Task Manager up and check if the Windows Antimalware Executable is hogging the CPU. If it is, google on how to prevent it from doing that. I had exactly the same issue and had to take care of it.

Troy.Boxster 01-21-2017 05:11 PM

Damn you Fred! I'll take four.

:-)

Cheers!
-Troy


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