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2000986s 07-20-2016 03:44 PM

Okay, that makes sense. So in that picture, is that a stock headlight assembly...? I'm a bit confused. My main goal is to get rid of the amber on my car. I have 03-04 tail lights installed and I am getting clear side markers but i need the headlights. What would I need to obtain in order to replicate exactly what is in that picture? Because oh my lord that is exactly what I want:D:D:D

particlewave 07-20-2016 03:52 PM

Headlight porn...I used to build these for a fee, but it got too costly for me.

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...E4CE6F3B52.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...AA83F9BE0E.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...B6B7672C28.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...2208CFD988.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...D9A6D43AD0.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...6FFD43FE_1.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...otos/014-1.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...otos/021-1.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...otos/005_2.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...64E0383F38.jpg

particlewave 07-20-2016 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000986s (Post 503795)
Okay, that makes sense. So in that picture, is that a stock headlight assembly...? I'm a bit confused. My main goal is to get rid of the amber on my car. I have 03-04 tail lights installed and I am getting clear side markers but i need the headlights. What would I need to obtain in order to replicate exactly what is in that picture? Because oh my lord that is exactly what I want:D:D:D

You need to obtain a set of the clear style OEM headlights and install a set of Freds projectors. If you want the DRL light bars, that's a little more involved, but they are basically just six-inch CCFL lights mounted inside the headlight in the upper portion of the turn signal. ;)

2000986s 07-20-2016 04:02 PM

That headlight porn.... oh my god.... amazing. Okay so clear style oem lights.... guessing that I can find those on pelican parts for a nasty price, but do they show up used on this forum very often? Do you recommend getting brand new? I messaged Fred so hopefully I can pick up a pair of his projectors when theyre available. DRL light bars might be a project for down the road

2000986s 07-20-2016 04:04 PM

And i can really never express how much i appreciate the help from all you amazing people on here. I'm a clueless 20 year old just beginning to wet my feet in the Porsche world and this guidance is amazing. So thank you, really.

particlewave 07-20-2016 04:14 PM

You can get new clear headlights on eBay for about $795 shipped...pricey, but they do look nice brand new. If you watch eBay, you can get decent used for $350-$500.

They rarely come up here on the forum, but I find a good used set on eBay about once a month.

2000986s 07-20-2016 04:18 PM

I shall begin my hunt and await the return of Fred.

Thanks again!:cheers:

2000986s 07-20-2016 04:26 PM

Last question and then I will leave everyone alone for a while...
A clear halogen 986 headlight assembly for an 03-04 boxster- will I have any trouble fitting this onto my 2000 S?

jpc763 07-20-2016 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000986s (Post 503807)
Last question and then I will leave everyone alone for a while...

A clear halogen 986 headlight assembly for an 03-04 boxster- will I have any trouble fitting this onto my 2000 S?

No fit problems at all. They slip right in.

2000986s 07-20-2016 04:30 PM

Thanks you very much!

BruceH 07-20-2016 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000986s (Post 503806)
I shall begin my hunt and await the return of Fred.

Thanks again!:cheers:

I bought new ones on eBay which was well worth it IMO. I figured if I was putting in such nice projectors, I wanted the rest to be new as well. Of course others have done very well polishing their OEM's. Mine had the amber which also influenced me to buy new.

Nine8Six 07-20-2016 06:31 PM

Community assist, wow, you guys are the greatest. Particle, jpc763, Bruce!

Apologies for having missed your questions 2000986s. You are lucky bud, looks like you got taken care by the best here. All that was said is all very true!

Right. (Out of context) the reason I am stuck and not doing these headlight kits at this very moment is because I am pitching for a massive contract that I NEED badly. Its for a OEM motorcycle manufacturer (giant!) out off Japan. Like I said I desperately need this pitch to go in as it will keep me busy here for the next 10 years (3 new upcoming motorcycle models). I've completed 6 samples out of the ten they require and hopefully be done by this coming Friday along with RFQ, NDA, inspection reportrs, and all other paperwork. The rest will be waiting with my fingers crossed really :/ Nasty stress I tell ya.

Taking orders: If anyone needs a kit urgently (we have for sure 11 guys who keeps a heartbeat with me here) what I can do is get 12 kits ready by next week to at least take care of our friends here. If anyone else needs a kit, now is the time to send me a PM and I'll slip you in. I'll start those this weekend and they will be ready the following week.

Price is $355 shipped (members price; they worth $12,875 in reality lolll)

As said previously, I have parts for little over 180 kits ready so this will be assembling right after those 12 kits. If you prefer and happy to wait for me, by all means do :)

Nine8Six 07-20-2016 06:36 PM

We offer them with the magical (and illegal) Porsche Motorsports scripts (temporarily) ATM. Anyway, for those 12 that I'll do for you chaps anyway. So....

Charles (aka Particlewave) still install them, he was lying a few posts above. PM him if you are lazy doing them yourself. He is by far the most experienced person in this world who will do those in a flash for you (electronics/relays included)

BruceH 07-20-2016 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 503821)
We offer them with the magical (and illegal) Porsche Motorsports scripts (temporarily) ATM. Anyway, for those 12 that I'll do for you chaps anyway. So....

Charles (aka Particlewave) still install them, he was lying a few posts above. PM him if you are lazy doing them yourself. He is by far the most experienced person in this world who will do those in a flash for you (electronics/relays included)

If you can sweet talk Charles to do the modifications, it is well worth it! He did mine and they came out perfect!

Fred, good luck with getting the contract, I have no doubt you will :cheers:

Nine8Six 07-20-2016 07:17 PM

Thanks Captain :cheers:

$50k (profits) contract per year for X(min) ten years. Not millions but man, I could do with a few like that. Starts like that anyway! Fingers crossed.

Really bloody hard to make money these days. Bank robbery is the next move lolllll

2000986s 07-20-2016 07:19 PM

Sounds like a great venture and I wish you all the luck in the world!

BruceH 07-20-2016 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 503828)
Thanks Captain :cheers:

$50k (profits) contract per year for X(min) ten years. Not millions but man, I could do with a few like that. Starts like that anyway! Fingers crossed.

Really bloody hard to make money these days. Bank robbery is the next move lolllll

A little here, a little there! Pretty soon you're talking real money :cool:

Nine8Six 07-20-2016 07:28 PM

With a recent (loaned loll) $220k investment, I won't take any less.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000986s (Post 503830)
Sounds like a great venture and I wish you all the luck in the world!

Too kind, thanks bud

jpc763 07-21-2016 07:07 AM

$355 shipped is a GREAT deal. 2000986s - you should jump on that! Also, I sent you a PM.

2000986s 07-21-2016 07:24 AM

Yup I already sent a PM requesting a kit! Can't wait to get this all done. Revceived your pm and thanks again!

Dubaday 07-21-2016 07:40 AM

I'm so in there! :dance:

PM sent!

Disaster 07-22-2016 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 503794)
Just to clear up any confusion, Fred makes HID projector kits that must be installed into pre-existing headlights (no ready made options).

That said, the completed headlights have no equal in looks or performance. The install isn't exactly easy, but plenty have done their own.

Mine are pictured below. I installed Fred's Vivo series projectors, along with some smaller projectors (for the dual projector look) and some custom made daytime running lights.

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...7C2F1B6D_1.jpg

The LED DRL looks amazing. Would love to know how that is done.

Nine8Six 07-22-2016 11:58 AM

Sure you missed the side markers. comes as a kit or it just doesn't work ;)

particlewave 07-23-2016 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disaster (Post 504108)
The LED DRL looks amazing. Would love to know how that is done.

Thanks :cool:

The round halos come with the GT Projectors. The light bars in the headlights are 6" CCFL's (cold cathode fluorescent lights).
I mounted an acrylic tube in the upper turn signal portion (inside the headlight) which extends to just outside of the case so that the CCFL bulbs can slide in and out for changing when they burn out.
The acrylic tube has a clear window in the front, but the rest was painted with a "mirror finish" paint so that all light is reflected forward for maximum light output. They are nice and bright ;)

I don't have any pictures of the process or of the inside of the headlight showing how the tube is mounted. :(

And yes, I made some orange light bar side markers to match :D

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...otos/007_1.jpg

Despite how it looks, they really don't affect turn signal visibility much.

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...otos/016-1.jpg
http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...otos/024-2.jpg

Disaster 07-24-2016 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 504283)
The round halos come with the GT Projectors. The light bars in the headlights are 6" CCFL's (cold cathode fluorescent lights).
I mounted an acrylic tube in the upper turn signal portion (inside the headlight) which extends to just outside of the case so that the CCFL bulbs can slide in and out for changing when they burn out.
The acrylic tube has a clear window in the front, but the rest was painted with a "mirror finish" paint so that all light is reflected forward for maximum light output. They are nice and bright.

Are the CCFL's known to burn out? How often do they need to be changed? I'm leaning to LED's with a diffuser but so many of them are crap. Need to find a reliable one.

particlewave 07-24-2016 08:10 AM

The CCFL's are rated at 30,000 hours. Mine have been in for a couple years and have not burnt out or shown any signs of dimming.

LEDs don't have the soft and solid line look of these. LEDs can also be of questionable quality. When one single LED burns out, it looks terrible. With these, I have 2 bulbs that can burn out vs a couple dozen LEDs. The CCFLs are also low cost and take very little time to replace ;)

Nine8Six 07-24-2016 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disaster (Post 504290)
Are the CCFL's known to burn out? How often do they need to be changed? I'm leaning to LED's with a diffuser but so many of them are crap. Need to find a reliable one.

Can’t comment on CCFL as I've never owned, tested, or even seen them myself. All I know is the professional car lighting system retrofitters that I personally know here in Shanghai and Tokyo simply do not install CCFL since a few years already. For two reasons; long phased out (using laser now), and categorized as unreliable. Perhaps the CCFL types that you guys are getting in the Americas are far superior in terms of supported technology, I have no idea.

If you ask me; personally I don’t use anything other than Xenon in my custom headlights for both low & high beams (bi-xenon). I need the output/temp and cutoff to be in line with local DOT regulation here (our cars requires yearly inspection). Those CCFL would automatically fail inspection here hence why ppl here just don’t install them anymore.

Same goes for the lower bumper DRL led bars i.e. those aftermarket DRL with overly powerful LEDs blinding the day light out of incoming traffic. Totally illegal if found to be aftermarket (car impounding + fines). In China/Shanghai anyway.

Lighting system designers here and JP now uses laser diodes and optical fiber to dress up headlights & taillights. Softer look & feel and safe(r) in terms of lumen output. Not my thing/taste at all but designed and installed carefully, those fiber optics 'supposedly' passes inspection here (I've heard, haven't tried lolll). Something worth looking into if you are into this kind of stuff.

Nine8Six 07-24-2016 11:44 AM

At the shop doing those atm, tought I'd share my setup
 
Those are my angel eyes. As subtle as that really.

Those parking lights are in fact the original Porsche halogen 12v bulbs. Still works today can you believe this loll 4k temp, love it

Optic & Xenon for low & high beams. And that's it, sharp lighting only.

Simplicity! Possibly the best looking lighting system your DOT inspector will ever see. Works.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01/011388848550.jpg
^ yup, still on the prototype :/

kjc2050 07-24-2016 12:49 PM

Beautiful! All these pics make me sorry I sold my (excellent condition) halogens and put Litronics on my car. Sad!

Nine8Six 07-24-2016 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjc2050 (Post 504332)
Beautiful! All these pics make me sorry I sold my (excellent condition) halogens and put Litronics on my car. Sad!

Litronic are perfectly fine headlights. Quality stuff for sure, seen them many time. Similar performance, I just can't possibly 'say publicly' which one win sadly :D

Have a spare set of headlights here with gunmetal Turismo w/ white angel eyes. That's what going in the car this summer!!! I'll take a few new pics & 4K vids with my new GH4... sure will make you regret your Nikon if not the headlights haha

kjc2050 07-24-2016 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 504337)
Have a spare set of headlights here with gunmetal Turismo w/ white angel eyes. That's what going in the car this summer!!! I'll take a few new pics & 4K vids with my new GH4... sure will make you regret your Nikon if not the headlights haha

Fred, you're killing me. :)

Nine8Six 08-01-2016 09:36 AM

GTCollection.com is ONLINE and finally accepting orders!
 
https://goo.gl/3m86om

You’ll find an intentionally “stripped” production version of the site for the first month. Reason for this is to tweak SEO (Search Engine Optimization). We will update the site will less relevant content weekly or as it gets indexed and crawled by the webbots eg. homepage fancies, BLOG, etc. To ensure the index sees some regular updated content and peak it up the ranking in <3 months (there, some SEO secret for ya all). The core material & content (the important stuff!) is LIVE however; products, listings, pics, account sign-up, order, mail tracking, etc, we have it all. Finally!

Shop with confidence

Server security: NGINX + HTTP/2 + TLS1.2. Many in the industry will agree that getting a A+ grade at SSL Labs is a great challenge. Ensuring trusted server-vs-client sessions is paramount for me and I’ve proved just that by hitting that ceiling. SSL Labs is the tool of choice to identify whether ecommerce/merchants really deserve hosting personal data. When I shop online, I always run the vendor’s domain at SSL Labs and if the rating ranks below A I simply change shop.

The physical location of the server & database is at Google Cloud (CGE-USA) and its SSD hard drive is encrypted using third party’s. Meaning even if the hard drive falls into the wrong hands, nobody can gain access to the data stored on the server without 2 (two) sets of private keys + a 128bit encryption password. Nothing, absolutely nothing is hosted in China. Public ports include only http(80), htps(443), MTA(25). And that’s it, nothing more than what’s needed.

The server is firewalled (+IDS) and only accessible using Strong VPN/SSH, again, with its own set of keys.

And that’s how it’s done. Enjoy!

https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7747/2...8be84f66_b.jpg

^ Test your sites: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest

ohhh my 08-01-2016 09:42 AM

VERY NICE. Gave me something to shoot for once we launch our website for our company ecommerce site. (not car related) Thanks for sharing, especially the SEO tip.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 505119)
https://goo.gl/3m86om

You’ll find an intentionally “stripped” production version of the site for the first month. Reason for this is to tweak SEO (Search Engine Optimization). We will update the site will less relevant content weekly or as it gets indexed and crawled by the webbots eg. homepage fancies, BLOG, etc. To ensure the index sees some regular updated content and peak it up the ranking in <3 months (there, some SEO secret for ya all). The core material & content (the important stuff!) is LIVE however; products, listings, pics, account sign-up, order, mail tracking, etc, we have it all. Finally!

Shop with confidence

Server security: NGINX + HTTP/2 + TLS1.2. Many in the industry will agree that getting a A+ grade at SSL Labs is a great challenge. Ensuring trusted server-vs-client sessions is paramount for me and I’ve proved just that by hitting that ceiling. SSL Labs is the tool of choice to identify whether ecommerce/merchants really deserve hosting personal data. When I shop online, I always run the vendor’s domain at SSL Labs and if the rating ranks below A I simply change shop.

The physical location of the server & database is at Google Cloud (CGE-USA) and its SSD hard drive is encrypted using third party’s. Meaning even if the hard drive falls into the wrong hands, nobody can gain access to the data stored on the server without 2 (two) sets of private keys + a 128bit encryption password. Nothing, absolutely nothing is hosted in China. Public ports include only http(80), htps(443), MTA(25). And that’s it, nothing more than what’s needed.

The server is firewalled (+IDS) and only accessible using Strong VPN/SSH, again, with its own set of keys.

And that’s how it’s done. Enjoy!

https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7747/2...8be84f66_b.jpg

^ Test your sites: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest


Nine8Six 08-01-2016 09:49 AM

Those below are lurking on that same site. My advice, grab them while you can lollll Small qty, rare, never last very long ;)

Full custom however, club/sport crest, scripts, requests welcome!

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1470073669.jpg

https://goo.gl/3m86om


Quote:

Originally Posted by ohhh my (Post 505121)
VERY NICE. Gave me something to shoot for once we launch our website for our company ecommerce site. (not car related) Thanks for sharing, especially the SEO tip.

Updating your images' ALT tags for a month is often just enough for the bots to pick up regular site updates (another million$ trick they don't tell you!). You want to trigger the engines' rank algorithm as much as you can, key to that is fresh content.

Without updates, the site just sits there really - AVOID during the first 3 months ;)

Nine9ex 08-07-2016 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 365438)
I think we can work something out ;)

I'll send you a pm after I get off work.

Just ordered the liumi's in g-metal!!! So excited! You and nine8six are a real inspiration!!!

Can I publicly beg for your help in finishing the deal and putting these together for my lovely, silver p-car?

Cheers mate!!

Matt

Nine8Six 08-08-2016 02:26 AM

Thanks Matt, received! Nice choice of angel eyes with those GM bud :cheers: Let's hope Charles is not all too busy lately.

Note to all who got a kit recently; thanks for the overload :/ Wasn't expecting that many orders but I'm guessing with all the delays that I've inflicted, that's the price to pay. Been dedicated for the last full 5 days doing those for you guys.

If only I'd be getting rich at doing those lollllll (I think after the carbide cutters, 380V machine-tool electricity, dyes, other hardware, and prep, shipping, I think I make a rude & healthy 70$ profit on one kit). So... selling many is the idea! Sold 16 kits to you guys (incl Matt's) since the site is up. Oh, I've checked again and I have parts for 140 more kits left here so please ORDER your kit now - just kill those 90's halogen :D:D

LASER SCRIPT:

All of those 16 kits will be etch with PORSCHE PERFORMANCE OPTICS on the bezel (w/ series name at the bottom). Rewind a few million posts in this thread if you want to see what it looks like. If you need anything else please get in touch - those goes under the laser this coming Tuesday morning and pack right after (final step!).

2000986s 08-08-2016 04:56 AM

I cannot wait, the excitement is killing me hahah. Glad to hear about the script! I didn't see anywhere on the site to add that on so that's awesome you're doing it for all of them! Still waiting on my clear headlights to come in... Im starting to get the sick feeling I may have been screwed over by someone who was selling a used pair...:mad:

Wish me luck...

jpc763 08-08-2016 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000986s (Post 505883)
I cannot wait, the excitement is killing me hahah. Glad to hear about the script! I didn't see anywhere on the site to add that on so that's awesome you're doing it for all of them! Still waiting on my clear headlights to come in... Im starting to get the sick feeling I may have been screwed over by someone who was selling a used pair...:mad:

Wish me luck...

Did you buy that pair off of Ebay? From Canada?

kjc2050 08-08-2016 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpc763 (Post 505945)
Did you buy that pair off of Ebay? From Canada?

Look at post #1300.

2000986s 08-08-2016 05:22 PM

I had a wtb ad up on the parts for sale page and a guy contacted me via email. 550 for a used pair seemed like a solid deal and he had pics and everything. Made payment about a week and a half ago, he went MIA, then about a week ago he told me they shipped. I asked for a tracking number and haven't heard back since. Michael Newmann is his name from California


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