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MNBoxster 03-13-2007 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eslai
So how does your love of the C6 come into play then? Or actually I guess that's more brucelee's fetish. :) You can troll around in fourth gear on that car and never need to shift.

I agree with the article about the "crap stereo", but I still think the base Cayman is a tragedy. Sure, it's a fun car, as is any 987 variant, but the fact that Porsche is protecting their anachronistic 911 is pretty uninspiring.

Hi,

I have no particular love for the C6, though I do respect the job Chevy did on it. It's the 1st Corvette to actually Handle, and w/ decent Brakes - the car is finally Balanced. It is a lot of car for the $$...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

SD987 03-13-2007 09:16 PM

I don't know about more HP...I can pretty successfully scare the bejesus out of people in the cockpit (including myself) with a 280 hp Boxster S driven at the limit (or at least my limits).

It takes a lot of HP and a lot of money (C06 excluded) to gain a half second off the 0-60 and a second off the 1/4 times of the 987S. It's pretty much a definitive example of diminishing returns.

As far as the C06 goes, in most cases if one can afford a new Boxster then one can afford a new Vette. It's not like Porsche buyers slap their foreheads and say "dang, I could have had a Vette". To state the obvious, it's a question of personal preference. Besides I don't own enough gold chains to drive a Vette and prefer crew-neck tee-shirts to wife-beaters.

eslai 03-13-2007 09:46 PM

nonono I only mentioned the 'vette in response to the criteria Jim gave for what constitutes a sports car. I'm not trying to say it's somehow a better car just because it has more horses or something.

I can scare people with the Boxster, but I could just as well scare them with a Miata. But if you want to scare someone on a track, you need something like an Evo or what not. A Cayman won't cut it.

Anyhow, I'm not out at the tracks much anymore so I guess it doesn't matter.

Bavarian Motorist 03-14-2007 07:36 AM

I can only scare someone in first gear... other than that .. :(

Brucelee 03-14-2007 08:03 AM

."Besides I don't own enough gold chains to drive a Vette and prefer crew-neck tee-shirts to wife-beaters."

Well, since you drive a "chick car" and a "Poor Man's Porsche," you can't really hurl insults can you?

Just kidding! See how stereotypes work, there is always a retort!

:)

Perfectlap 03-14-2007 08:06 AM

Scared??? that's for chicks man.

I rode in a nervous GT3 going fast IN THE RAIN. Was I scared?
No way man..I have hair on my chest and drink my vodka straight!

If I trust the skill of the driver and I'm in a genuine sports car with good tires
and a stable platform, there is no reason to be scared at any speed.

p.s.
the funny thing about stereotypes is that they are generally true, that's how they became a stereotype to begin with.
Sure 911 Cabs aren't for homosexuals as TopGear's Jeremy Clarkson contends
but guess what Vincenzo my gay hairdresser drives? 911 Cab (tip).
And the last guy I saw driving a C6 in SoHo was wearing what?
moustache and gold chain playing some awwwwful cheesy 'freestyle' dance music from the 80's. And not far from Mr C6 was a Range Rover being driven by a guy who looked allot like MasterP.

SD987 03-14-2007 08:20 AM

Yawn...

OK Plap, you're the best car driver on the Internet..congratulations, you can pick up your award on the way out.

Perfectlap 03-14-2007 08:21 AM

haha...no I'm the best passenger!!
that's the whole point, scaring your passenger doesn't prove anything about the car.

SD987 03-14-2007 08:54 AM

You can put this one next to your detailing trophies...

http://i17.tinypic.com/2e51pue.jpg

Perfectlap 03-14-2007 10:23 AM

previous winners are exempt from that trophy. You should've seen
Mom Perfectlap behind the wheel of the Volvo 240 D. I haven't blinked
since I was eight.

SD987 03-14-2007 07:37 PM

Well, since you drive a "chick car" and a "Poor Man's Porsche," you can't really hurl insults can you?

Now see, that's the kind of thing I'd expect to hear from a Vette owner.

The chick car label is applied to a broad range of vehicles including a convertible Vette, I mean for crying out loud a convertible Vette is actually an accessory that's available for Barbie dolls !

And the "Poor Man's Porsche" insult totally misses the point of my previous post. If someone can afford a Porsche Boxster, than they can afford a Vette (or in the case of many Boxster owners, multiple Vettes). So does that make the Vette owner someone who can't even get on the bottom rung of the Porsche ladder? Nah, like I said, it's a matter of choice.

Brucelee 03-15-2007 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD987
Well, since you drive a "chick car" and a "Poor Man's Porsche," you can't really hurl insults can you?

Now see, that's the kind of thing I'd expect to hear from a Vette owner.

The chick car label is applied to a broad range of vehicles including a convertible Vette, I mean for crying out loud a convertible Vette is actually an accessory that's available for Barbie dolls !

And the "Poor Man's Porsche" insult totally misses the point of my previous post. If someone can afford a Porsche Boxster, than they can afford a Vette (or in the case of many Boxster owners, multiple Vettes). So does that make the Vette owner someone who can't even get on the bottom rung of the Porsche ladder? Nah, like I said, it's a matter of choice.

Well you didn't understand or didn't choose to read my entire post.

This "whole insult or stereotype the guy with the other car" is simply immature.

Ghostrider 310 03-15-2007 03:05 PM

You can have your Vette, when I was a child I liked playing with plastic cars too...

Bavarian Motorist 03-15-2007 05:58 PM

Come on guys. Let's be the only mature car group out there that does not stereotype other cars and their owners.



If you really love cars, then you will appreciate all of them for what they are.

Brucelee 03-15-2007 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310
You can have your Vette, when I was a child I liked playing with plastic cars too...


IBID

"This "whole insult or stereotype the guy with the other car" is simply immature."

Brucelee 03-15-2007 06:39 PM

:"If you really love cars, then you will appreciate all of them for what they are"

Indeed! Well said.

demonz 03-15-2007 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap
my gay hairdresser drives? 911 Cab (tip).


What does it say to have a gay male hairdresser? :rolleyes: (not that there's anything wrong with it.) I kid. I kid!!


Only a woman cuts my hair :D

Adam 03-15-2007 08:58 PM

Stereotypes are almost always incorrect and misinformed, my dad owns two vettes SD987 and not one gold chain. A 66 and a 99 to be exact. Never seen him wear a wife beater either.

Bavarian Motorist 03-15-2007 10:16 PM

I'm sure it's different in other places, but around here... Porsche and Corvette owners seem to be the most calm and docile drivers on the road and neither show any signs of being uncivilized in any way or form.



I am the exception. I disgrace Boxster owners :(

SD987 03-15-2007 10:24 PM

I don't know Bav, I think Porsche and Vette owners are like Siamese fighting fish. Docile on their own, but put them in the same bowl (or at the same stoplight) and all hell has been known to break loose.


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