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mikehkang 07-26-2021 12:18 PM

Wheel security key lost.
 
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Does anyone recognize this wheel lug key pattern?

I misplaced the key and I want to remove the bolts.
Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

Stl-986 07-26-2021 12:27 PM

Go by any auto tire installer. They should have a universal key that would work.

piper6909 07-26-2021 12:50 PM

According to post #12 on this string, you can get one from the dealer:

http://986forum.com/forums/boxster-general-discussions/79942-lost-my-lug-bolt-key.html

If you can't find one and get desperate, check out these videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJUUyjJqk5A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKDkXS3gYow

mikehkang 07-26-2021 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stl-986 (Post 639466)
Go by any auto tire installer. They should have a universal key that would work.

My next stop, local auto tire installer.

Thanks Stl-986!

mikehkang 07-26-2021 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piper6909 (Post 639468)
According to post #12 on this string, you can get one from the dealer:

http://986forum.com/forums/boxster-general-discussions/79942-lost-my-lug-bolt-key.html

If you can't find one and get desperate, check out these videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJUUyjJqk5A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKDkXS3gYow

I was at the dealer today. Apparently, the key is NOT Porsche. It is an aftermarket.

Thanks for the video. I will watch them this evening.

Stl-986 07-26-2021 01:28 PM

$20-$40 and you should be out the door from a tire place. Of course you will need to get new lug bolts most likely but that's cheap & easy to do at home.

Johnny 5 07-26-2021 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Stl-986 (Post 639476)
$20-$40 and you should be out the door from a tire place. Of course you will need to get new lug bolts most likely but that's cheap & easy to do at home.

What he said any tire shop should be able to do it. They usually have replacement security bolts for sale as well. Or if you really want to do it yourself you can buy a kit that can be used. But easiest would be a tire place.

mikehkang 07-26-2021 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stl-986 (Post 639476)
$20-$40 and you should be out the door from a tire place. Of course you will need to get new lug bolts most likely but that's cheap & easy to do at home.

Got the new lug bolts at the dealer today when I thought the key was a Porsche key.
(The parts guy did say he will take it off for free and I was ready to tip him $$$. :) )
The lug bolts are the most expensive parts from the dealer I bought, ever! LOL.

I will be visiting tire places in the town now.... sigh...

mikehkang 07-26-2021 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny 5 (Post 639478)
What he said any tire shop should be able to do it. They usually have replacement security bolts for sale as well. Or if you really want to do it yourself you can buy a kit that can be used. But easiest would be a tire place.

Hello Johnny,

What kit? That will be my plan B after visiting the tire places.

Johnny 5 07-26-2021 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mikehkang (Post 639479)
Got the new lug bolts at the dealer today when I thought the key was a Porsche key.
(The parts guy did say he will take it off for free and I was ready to tip him $$$. :) )
The lug bolts are the most expensive parts from the dealer I bought, ever! LOL.

I will be visiting tire places in the town now.... sigh...

You think that is bad try ordering a hardtop spinlocks. Two stupid little metal pieces needed for one. Now thats expensive

Johnny 5 07-26-2021 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mikehkang (Post 639480)
Hello Johnny,

What kit? That will be my plan B after visiting the tire places.

Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/CASOMAN-Pieces-Removal-Locking-Removing/dp/B08R9BFFSG/ref=asc_df_B08R9BFFSG/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475741847238&hvpos=&hvnetw= g&hvrand=1378843311496717907&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt =&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031988&hvt argid=pla-1187096752264&psc=1

Im sure you can find cheaper kits but its basically something like this that can be used to remove security locks. This may not have the one you need but in general they have kits for all sorts of locks. Another possibility you could do if you know who you got these from and see if they have a key they can send you? Just a thought

Now the question is....is it really worth putting security locks on when you know others can have something like this and break them off if they really really want the wheels! lol :p

Stl-986 07-26-2021 01:54 PM

Which is exactly what they are doing now. Jack, cordless impact, universal key removal kit and bricks. They are in & out in under 20 minutes with 4 wheels

vetman 07-26-2021 04:35 PM

wheel security key lost
 
I can guarantee that the kit shown will not work, at least with 16 inch wheels. The key on my car (98 Base) has the "key" at the bottom, not a keyed spline so to get a socket around the "keyed' part, it has to be maybe 24mm and the wall is too thick to get into the lug space. I'm not being super clear and hopefully other wheels have more clearance. That set has no socket large enough to get around the locking key.

Other keys may be different and other wheels may have more space, and I may be the only one who loves the 16's

I love the amount of tire between the rim and the road, especially on the roads around NYC. I have ruined 3 BMW Pirelli run flats this year on pot holes.

Are the 16's best for the track, probably not, but I have a ZR1 track car for that. In 4 days of ownership, I am absolutely loving the little white car.

I just ordered what appears to be the"official" PORSCHE key set. A bit less than $200.00. If you can wait a few days, it may be for sale "only used once on Sunday" before the end of the week.

piper6909 07-26-2021 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mikehkang (Post 639472)
I was at the dealer today. Apparently, the key is NOT Porsche. It is an aftermarket.

Thanks for the video. I will watch them this evening.

If it's aftermarket, then most likely a 19mm 12-point socket will fit it. Beat the socket onto the lug head with a hammer, then spin it off with a ratchet and a pipe extension, if you don't have a breaker bar.

Use a Craftsman so you can exchange it once you've ruined it! :D

mikehkang 07-26-2021 05:24 PM

Update:
 
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It appears that the young man at the local P-dealer was mistaken. Maybe.
My key looks similar to the one found here.

mikehkang 07-26-2021 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vetman (Post 639496)
I can guarantee that the kit shown will not work, at least with 16 inch wheels. The key on my car (98 Base) has the "key" at the bottom, not a keyed spline so to get a socket around the "keyed' part, it has to be maybe 24mm and the wall is too thick to get into the lug space. I'm not being super clear and hopefully other wheels have more clearance. That set has no socket large enough to get around the locking key.

Other keys may be different and other wheels may have more space, and I may be the only one who loves the 16's

I love the amount of tire between the rim and the road, especially on the roads around NYC. I have ruined 3 BMW Pirelli run flats this year on pot holes.

Are the 16's best for the track, probably not, but I have a ZR1 track car for that. In 4 days of ownership, I am absolutely loving the little white car.

I just ordered what appears to be the"official" PORSCHE key set. A bit less than $200.00. If you can wait a few days, it may be for sale "only used once on Sunday" before the end of the week.

The picture above is my driver side wheel bolt.
The rear ones are even deeper. :ah:

piper6909 07-26-2021 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mikehkang (Post 639502)
It appears that the young man at the local P-dealer was mistaken. Maybe.
My key looks similar to the one found here.

Those are lug nuts. Your car has lug bolts. I don't think that key would fit yours.

piper6909 07-26-2021 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mikehkang (Post 639503)
The picture above is my driver side wheel bolt.
The rear ones are even deeper. :ah:

Try a 19mm deep-well socket. 12-point. beat it onto the lug head. If it fits too loose, try an 18mm.

mikehkang 07-26-2021 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piper6909 (Post 639500)
If it's aftermarket, then most likely a 19mm 12-point socket will fit it. Beat the socket onto the lug head with a hammer, then spin it off with a ratchet and a pipe extension, if you don't have a breaker bar.

Use a Craftsman so you can exchange it once you've ruined it! :D

As noted in my update above, I think it IS genuine Porsche lock. The key in the picture is very similar to my key.
I will contact the parts department tomorrow and ask if they have wheels keys for the senior-citizen-cars like mine. :)

mikehkang 07-26-2021 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piper6909 (Post 639505)
Try a 19mm deep-well socket. 12-point. beat it onto the lug head. If it fits too loose, try an 18mm.

So far,

Plan A. Buy the regular bolts from the dealer and ask them to take out the old keyed. (Told that my setup was an after market. Yes, I have the new bolts now.)

Plan B. Bought a 21mm deep-well socket (12 points), today and tried to hammer to fit 'around' the 'keys'. (Well, I am not a Thor. Thought about blow torching the socket until it would get red and hot THEN hammer. This may be Plan Z.)

Plan C. Call the parts department and speak with the "young man" who may be too young to remember what an old wheel looks like.

Plan D. Go the the tire installer next to the dealer.

Your 19mm and 18mm will be my Plan E and Plan F, respectively. :)


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