That's fantastic! With the owner and the buyer along with a few on this forum we have your handful. Now I realize in some parts of the country change is difficult. California is the customization capital of the Country and many of those type of cars are normal for their giant population whereas in others I can see they would be shocking. I'm sure I can give you examples of many hideous trucks that may look normal in your area but not in Ca. Fortunately Porsche has chosen to advance in the direction the customizers and not continue with 90's styling.

My brother... you're missing the whole point that several of us are trying to make. You're trying to add 2010+ modern styling to a car that was designed in the early '90s. Tacking on a larger, modern bumper cover to a small car design that's over 25 years old doesn't work. THE. PROPORTIONS. ARE. ALL. WRONG.

Yes - the modern bumper cover looks great - on a modern car. Trying to tack it on where it's out of proportion just doesn't look right.

This is what you're trying to do. Great in theory. In reality not so much.

Yea, completely missing the point.

You asked for opinions...and you got them. You dont have to agree with them or even like them, but you opened the door by asking.

So, you don't really want to hear opinions; just people who have your opinion.

I completely hear your point and you didn't listen to anything i said.

There's a reason most OEM's have a design studio in So.Cal. and not where you live.

I'm done trying.

Define most OEM's.

Being in CA has nothing to do with people wanting a different look on their old car.

I am dying to learn the line between theory and reality. Send her my way.

Why would you question the quality if you've not had one? They're quality is fine.

Jeez it's a 986 is not a 993. Although most of the posts on this thread act like they are. ��

Watched Gator's video.

I have, he got a bad one, they sent him a new one, it fit fine. It's a $600 bumper. Mine fits fine.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1627181703.jpg

Just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Those manta ray examples look hideous to me. Wrong bumper for this car. People go to California because they think the weather is always nice. If you want to get into car design Detroit is where it’s at

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1627181703.jpg

azlvr - if you're wanting to go with the front end that you want, this is the way to do it. I've said here several times before, and a year or so ago I nominated it to the Pelican best build contest - this is the best looking build on the 986 board and it has the exact front cover that you're looking at.

I'm not saying the bumper cover looks bad - it's a very good look - it just has to be in proportion to the rest of the car. JBauer has put countless hours into his car since he first posted about it 4-5 years ago. And he's also posted numerous trial/error pictures of things that he tried that just didn't have the right look. The Z-top adds balance to the rear of the car so the front bumper isn't overpowering the rest of the car and he's changed the look of the headlights so they blend into the flow and the lines of the front cover. Even the larger "987 look" intake vents help add the proper balance to the car drawing your eye towards the rear and a more balanced look.

Watching this car built over the past years has been a lesson in how to do something the right way. Everything he's done here has a very "factory OEM" look to it. All the things that I don't like on a stock 986 - the big front bumper, 19" wheels, the turn signals down low, etc are absolutely perfect looking here. The reason it all looks perfect is because the entire car is in balance, and it took a lot of trial/error for it to look this way.

So again, I'm not dogging you - I promise. I'm just saying this GT2-type cover isn't the right look on a standard looking 986. The car has to look in balance, and JBauer is the only guy I've seen do it right. And he did it most awesomely! :cheers:

And according to Porsche they are both classics :)

Other than only a few being made and it being the last air cooled 911, there is nothing inherently special about a 993. The 986 and 996 saved Porsche. The 993 almost bankrupted them.

Maybe but a 993s are valuable, 986s are pretty much cheap used cars. Modifications on a 986s are a cheap fun way to personalize your car. Most can be easily reversed.

2 others that disagree that gets added to the handful.

https://youtu.be/ZWi1okyDPLo


https://youtu.be/FmvXFB7bsJQ

The bumper that JB went with is one of the best looking ones out there. Different then the one you posted. Similar but still different.

But...who cares, it's your car do whatever you want with it. There are always going to be people that will disagree & always be people who agree. IF what a bunch of people on the Internet think is important to you then ,well, .......

That's what I always planned to do.

I like the looks of the black one, little more money, but cutting the inner bumper would suck.

Agreed! Yours has a good look too.

How has your long term headlight cover experience been?