Sure, but really not very different than the Box - also out of warranty, and hell I'm spending $2400 or so on the clutch and intermediate shaft seal replacement right now as it is. That's not even at the dealer, which would easily have been another $1000-$1500 just in labor costs. Tires, gas, oil, and insurance would be right around the same amount I pay now, I would venture to say.

But that raw, primitive noise is what I love about a car like an old Porsche or old VW. It would still be worth it to me. I love to ride in my friend's '86 Carrera and hear that engine going behind you....

"it felt extremely nuetral and stable"

It only felt that way because it had less power than the Lance Armstrong. When the real power comes on, the problems begin.

The 911 is a great story on how to mask/triumph over what is a terrible fundamental design from a handling perspective.

Now, the old VW was very good in snow, but not much fun on a windy day. "Hey, what lane was I in anyway?"

1978 911SC is one of the best 911s I've driven. RAW RAW RAW!

Sammy,

You are such an amazing driver you would probably kick butt in a Pinto !

The sad thing is, you would have probably smoked my Box with your GF's bug :(

Hopefully next year with your expert instruction my times will improve...

( and if I don't keep missing that freakin' second slalom :mad: )

Nick

What has become of you? Here you are driving a car that most reviewers says is a must drive before you die and others have described as better handling than a 911 and you have wanderlust!!

I feel your pain- I don't own any P-car but I am on the hunt and recently (like 24 hrs. ago) drove a 993 and have totally had my hunt dislodged. So here I am getting sucked into the Church of 993 with all that goes with it: visceral, last of the great ones, the true Porsche, not a wannabee- and the rest.

In the last two weeks completed sales are all over the place on ebay- the lowest I could find for c4s was 29K and the highest was 80+k for turbo. I think Edmunds is only a rough guide (very rough) for this kind of vehicle (good for a smart looking used Camry though!). Again this price seems good (of course you are not going to tell them that) if it is a one owner car not bought at auction with all service records and no accidents AND you will do your own PPI. After all that you need to add on the possibility of engine failure (not just with the P-cars but with any car). I think the engine replacement is something like 7-14K. Again just my conservative head.

Which leads me to this-why would you and I pay this for a car when we can get a 06 used Boxster S or Cayman S (minimal options) for about the same amount? Particularly when everyone is saying that THOSE cars are a throwback to the great days of P-car driving and , as one reviewer said of the new Boxster, an "out of body experience with telepathic steering and handling."

Reason- totally irrational and emotional. As one person said, you got to love it.