10-31-2006, 02:58 PM
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"Low profile oil pan (no jack required),"
I thought you have to lift the car to be able to access the engine from below. Please explain.
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P.S. Is there a Bentley (or similar) manual for 987 yet ?
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10-31-2006, 03:13 PM
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Lets, see, $19 for filter from Porsche dealer, and $64 for 9 quarts Royal Purple. and $14 for my dads shop to do the change.
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10-31-2006, 03:16 PM
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"Lets, see, $19 for filter from Porsche dealer, and $64 for 9 quarts Royal Purple. and $14 for my dads shop to do the change."
Gee, thanks. That was very helpful. I'll let my dad know.
Z.
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10-31-2006, 03:21 PM
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There are about 6 Porsche dealers in the Chicago area, and the prices for an oil change ranges from $110-$280.
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10-31-2006, 03:22 PM
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bmus, I remember it was discussed before but I forgot the conclusion. Do the warranty rules state that all maintenance and repair has to be done within the Porsche dealer network? Anybody knows for sure? I don't have the booklets with me.
Z.
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10-31-2006, 03:26 PM
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bmussatti:
"It's all about personal choice. But never under estimate the value of your time!"
So right. Just reminded me though, I may have to re-evaluate how much $ (and my fiance's patience) I'm "investing" in this forum.
Z.
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10-31-2006, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by z12358
bmus, I remember it was discussed before but I forgot the conclusion. Do the warranty rules state that all maintenance and repair has to be done within the Porsche dealer network? Anybody knows for sure? I don't have the booklets with me.
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Z, good question!
On page 10 of the 2006 "Warranty & Customer Information" book it states regarding maintenance:
"Your Responsibility for Maintenance:
You must maintain your Porsche according to the Maintenance Schedule in the Maintenance Booklet and the Car Care Instructions in the Owner's Manual and keep the receipts as proof of maintenance"
There are several pages regarding repairs under warranty.
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10-31-2006, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by z12358
"Lets, see, $19 for filter from Porsche dealer, and $64 for 9 quarts Royal Purple. and $14 for my dads shop to do the change."
Gee, thanks. That was very helpful. I'll let my dad know.
Z.
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And dont forget to show him your report card.
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10-31-2006, 07:32 PM
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$20 Filter, About $50 for oil and $12 of culled 2"x12" from Home Depot. Drive on, drain, wait, fill, drive off!
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10-31-2006, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ukchris
$20 Filter, About $50 for oil and $12 of culled 2"x12" from Home Depot. Drive on, drain, wait, fill, drive off!

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Ukchris, pretty slick! I like the low-tech approach to a higher-tech issue! Good work. Now, how do you keep the blocks from sliding/slipping?
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10-31-2006, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bmussatti
Ukchris, pretty slick! I like the low-tech approach to a higher-tech issue! Good work. Now, how do you keep the blocks from sliding/slipping?
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I guess the short answer is... I didn't. The floor is epoxy, I just park the car, push the ramps up snug to the tires and pull forward, they didn't move an inch. I've actually got another piece to add to make them a little higher as it's a tight fit for my noggin as it is in the picture but it's nice as the car is level and access is good.
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11-01-2006, 04:03 AM
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MNBoxster:
"The drain plug wrench is common enough, 8mm Allen bit. But, the Oil Filter wrench (74mm, 14 flutes) isn't that common, so I wouldn't expect Jiffy Lube to have one.
Besides needing to torque the Plug and Filter Cannister (37 ft.lbs. and 19 ft.lbs. respectively) could also be a problem, they may not have a torque wrench, let alone an accurate one.
Also, by the book, the Oil needs to drain for at least 20 min. to get the most old oil out and I cannot imaging Jiffy Lube holding a Bay out of service for that long.
But, the biggest concern I would have would be having their guys waving open quarts of Oil around my trunk!..."
Thx Jim. All very good points. I'm scratching the idea. It's either going to be by myself, Porsche dealer, or a non-dealer shop specializing in Porsche. The "by myself" is a problem as I have no light and power in the storage garage.
ukchris, great idea with the Home Depo stairs! Btw, what kind of oil pans do you guys use that are so flat and yet can handle up to 10 qts of oil? And where do you take the old oil? I'm also going to need some pics with exact instructions (hence, the Bentely manual question -- any for the 987 out yet?) including torque levels.
Thanks for all the responses!
Z.
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10-31-2006, 03:26 PM
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Right on...that is how I do it.
19 clams for the filter
64 clams for the oil
17 clams for the jiffy lube to change it.
They allow me to watch the entire process to make sure the oil filter is properly installed and oil nut is properly secured. I keep the reciept and put it in my book 'o Porsche. I also change my oil every 7500 miles so if I used the dealer I would be broke!
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Originally Posted by CJ_Boxster
Lets, see, $19 for filter from Porsche dealer, and $64 for 9 quarts Royal Purple. and $14 for my dads shop to do the change.
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'05 987 Basalt Black/Sand Beige
5 spd, 18" wheels
AH-64 Apache
RC-12 Guardrail
RC-7 Crazy Hawk
"If the wings are traveling faster than
the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter--
and therefore, unsafe" --Unknown
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10-31-2006, 03:35 PM
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Rail26:
"They allow me to watch the entire process to make sure the oil filter is properly installed and oil nut is properly secured. I keep the reciept and put it in my book 'o Porsche. I also change my oil every 7500 miles so if I used the dealer I would be broke!"
Just wondering and I'm being serious. What happens if they screwed something up? What's the dealer going to say when you bring it to him to be fixed? If someone else has been working on your engine, can that be used by PCNA to deny a future warranty claim on ANYTHING -- especially if the warranty rules specifically prohibit it?
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10-31-2006, 04:25 PM
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I wonder the same thing...that is pretty weak if they deny a claim, but here is my line of thinking. Basically, everything you do on the 987s is recorded by a computer i.e. oil pressure, rpms, speed, etc. They will know whether something is jacked up or not by the computer read out and they will definately know if something is a miss after an oil change based on documentation and computer read out. I guess I need to get into the warranty and see if it specifies that all work needs to be completed by a Porsche specialist. I bet some of the lawyers could weigh in on this one.
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Rail26:
"They allow me to watch the entire process to make sure the oil filter is properly installed and oil nut is properly secured. I keep the reciept and put it in my book 'o Porsche. I also change my oil every 7500 miles so if I used the dealer I would be broke!"
Just wondering and I'm being serious. What happens if they screwed something up? What's the dealer going to say when you bring it to him to be fixed? If someone else has been working on your engine, can that be used by PCNA to deny a future warranty claim on ANYTHING -- especially if the warranty rules specifically prohibit it?
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'05 987 Basalt Black/Sand Beige
5 spd, 18" wheels
AH-64 Apache
RC-12 Guardrail
RC-7 Crazy Hawk
"If the wings are traveling faster than
the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter--
and therefore, unsafe" --Unknown
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10-31-2006, 04:26 PM
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Actually, I just read the bottom of the post...do the warranty rules specifically prohibit it?
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'05 987 Basalt Black/Sand Beige
5 spd, 18" wheels
AH-64 Apache
RC-12 Guardrail
RC-7 Crazy Hawk
"If the wings are traveling faster than
the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter--
and therefore, unsafe" --Unknown
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10-31-2006, 03:36 PM
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Hi,
Costs me about $46 (+ my time as bmus points out). I buy Mobil1 0-40 directly from the local Exxon-Mobil distributor as a Will Call for just over $4/qt. Filter, 'O' ring and crushwasher $14. I use the Raise-Drop method (raise car, place pan, loosen drain plug, filter, drop car and wait 30 min. to insure all the Oil is out, the raise car button everything.)
I get the value of your time thing, but for me a big part of the Sports Car experience is doing the work, as much as you can. It is therapy for me, so it is what I want to do with my time.
It also gives you greater pride of ownership and allows you to get more intimate with the car as you can thoroughly inspect everything while you're under there.
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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10-31-2006, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MNBoxster
Hi,
I use the Raise-Drop method (raise car, place pan, loosen drain plug, filter, drop car and wait 30 min. to insure all the Oil is out, the raise car button everything.)
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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I totally cheat...
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11-01-2006, 07:29 AM
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10-31-2006, 04:36 PM
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bmussatti:
"You must maintain your Porsche according to the Maintenance Schedule in the Maintenance Booklet and the Car Care Instructions in the Owner's Manual and keep the receipts as proof of maintenance"
Thanks bmuss. I'm just worried that somewhere there in the fine print there isn't something like: "All service has to be performed by a Porsche Certified shop, blah, blah...". If I was the one offering the warranty I'd probably want to have something there that would ensure a certain standard of quality for the work done on the warrantied car.
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