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Kboggs 06-01-2020 06:36 AM

Found my jack stand solution!
 
After the harbor freight jack stand recalls, I wanted to research the most cost effective jack stands that I would feel safe using. I was thinking about a quickjack or other lift system, but thought of the cost benefit are there any other good options. I have looked at almost every jack stand system out there that I would feel safe using, including the safe jack and others. For the price, $105 shipped for a pair, I dont think you can find a better pair of jackstands!! 22 ton forklift jack set found on ebay. I was expecting the listing to be wrong, and only 1 would be included but it is for a pair! A nice large flat area to sit securely under the jack points, stable base, strong cylinder design to eliminate the chances for faulty welds, and the size of pin and capacity, would actually feel safe under these!

Also trying out new attachments for my current jack stands, but most likely will get two more of these for this price!
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Kboggs 06-01-2020 06:39 AM

Correction, cot confused and only 13 tons, but plenty of safety factor. 26,000 pound capacity.

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Kboggs 06-01-2020 06:43 AM

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MrBen 06-01-2020 07:34 PM

Those are still made in China those pins are the weak link. You can buy a lot of 2x8 for 100$. Cut em in PC's and stack what you need that's what I use. Those stands are probably fine I think the wood is better

thstone 06-01-2020 08:37 PM

Just in case someone else wants a set, I found them for $69.95...

https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/material-handling/forklifts-attachments/jacks/global-industrial-forkli-jack-stands-pair-26-000-lb-capacity

husker boxster 06-01-2020 10:21 PM

Not the cheapest solution, but I use a pair of jackpoint jack stands on the rear lift point. You only need 2 as you can lift the car high enough from the rear point that the front will come off the ground and I place a regular jack stand in the front. The jackpoints have a wide base. Once again, not the cheapest solution, but do we want to scrimp when it comes to safety?

Kboggs 06-02-2020 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by husker boxster (Post 618070)
Not the cheapest solution, but I use a pair of jackpoint jack stands on the rear lift point. You only need 2 as you can lift the car high enough from the rear point that the front will come off the ground and I place a regular jack stand in the front. The jackpoints have a wide base. Once again, not the cheapest solution, but do we want to scrimp when it comes to safety?


I looked at those, and they were nice and my second choice, but if I were going to spend that much, might as well spring for a quick jack.


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Kboggs 06-02-2020 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBen (Post 618068)
Those are still made in China those pins are the weak link. You can buy a lot of 2x8 for 100$. Cut em in PC's and stack what you need that's what I use. Those stands are probably fine I think the wood is better


I always use a back up system also. And the pins may be the weak point, but look at the pins on regular 3 ton cylinder stands, and the teeth on normal stands, no way I would trust them without a backup.

I did a little research on pin shear, a 1 inch grade 8 bolt has a shear strength of about 70,000 pounds. And it would take double that since there are 2 shear points where the pin is inserted. I am sure this is a heat treated bolt that has close to that shear strength, and enough safety factor built in that a corner of a boxster would be no problem!!


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Quadcammer 06-02-2020 05:51 AM

weak pins? come on, the car weighs 3000lbs. Its a non issue.

I use Esco stands and I've been very happy. The car is solid as a rock on these things and the pin is roughly 1/4 the size of the forklift ones.

I get being concerned about safety of course, but lets not panic.

DoninDel 06-02-2020 07:13 AM

Only gripe I would have is that it looks like there are only 3 heights to choose from - correct?

tonythetiger 06-02-2020 07:22 AM

I just bought the escos, replacing my recalled HF stands...they are great, stable and strong. Another plus is they aren't that expensive. The only "issue" is the high starting point, you need to get the car way up in the air to set them.
I will say, I like the combo hydraulic stands, but already made my purchase. The lift bars are really tempting, but around 300 bucks and my hope that I wont need the car in the air for awhile keeps my from making the plunge. I have one last project in the works and then Ill drive it for the summer.

Kboggs 06-03-2020 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DoninDel (Post 618079)
Only gripe I would have is that it looks like there are only 3 heights to choose from - correct?


Looks like 4 positions, all the way down and 3 pin holes. Should be plenty for most jobs, 15 something inch max. I watched a video on youtube where a guy was destructively testing jacks and jack stands, and a similar tube type that had a much smaller pin, it took 25 tons to fail!


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rexcramer 06-03-2020 06:34 AM

HF gave me $21.57 back and I bought a new pair from Walmart, +/- $30. They look identical. They also look like another pair that I have had for +/-30 years. All of them are made in China.

+1 on the Liftbars. I bought a pair a couple of years ago and still glad I did. As much as I like Esco's, you need the yoke of the HF style for the Liftbars to work. They feel very solid in use. Like the Esco's, it takes some back and forth to get it up to full height.

My take away is to check the yoke cast pieces for quality. They should look like a sharp saw blade. If the edges are damaged or look like a poor casting, replace them. Also check the cog that they catch on. It should swing freely and have a sharp edge to it also. I also keep my jack, wheels, stacks of wood under the car as back up.

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Originally Posted by tonythetiger (Post 618081)
The lift bars are really tempting, but around 300 bucks and my hope that I wont need the car in the air for awhile keeps my from making the plunge.


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mgfranz 06-03-2020 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kboggs (Post 618026)
Correction, cot confused and only 13 tons, but plenty of safety factor. 26,000 pound capacity.

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May be a silly question, but why would you need a 26,000 lb stand when our cars weigh only about 3000 lbs?

jaykay 06-03-2020 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Quadcammer (Post 618074)
weak pins? come on, the car weighs 3000lbs. Its a non issue.

I use Esco stands and I've been very happy. The car is solid as a rock on these things and the pin is roughly 1/4 the size of the forklift ones.

I get being concerned about safety of course, but lets not panic.

I use flat top escos as well. I drove across the border to get them. They the best interface with Porsche jack points. The pins are in double shear at each corner so things will be fine load capacity wise.

Kboggs 06-03-2020 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mgfranz (Post 618154)
May be a silly question, but why would you need a 26,000 lb stand when our cars weigh only about 3000 lbs?


I have never felt safe working under a car on jackstands, and for a few dollars more gives me much more peace of mind!


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