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Old 03-26-2020, 04:50 PM   #61
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Guys, let's please keep it civil.
This thread most be getting bad for a moderator to step in. Maybe we should start talking about cats too

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Yeah, Iím pissed that I canít find any toilet paper AND that people have been stealing all the hand sanitizer, TP and exam gloves from my wifeís clinic.
Moronic idiots...
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And...AND!

She STILL hasn’t received any PPE (N95 masks). We can’t even buy her any because of moronic idiots hoarding them.
I sent her to work with my P100 respirator that I use in the shop.

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And particlewave?
You're not doing so bad yourself.
Give your wife my best!
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She STILL hasnít received any PPE (N95 masks). We canít even buy her any because of moronic idiots hoarding them.
I sent her to work with my P100 respirator that I use in the shop.

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What pisses me off is those a$$-hats on Craigslist selling them. I've been flagging them, but unless other people do as well they won't get removed. I even contacted one of them and told them to donate them. They replied saying that they have donated some. Yeah, right. whatever.

My best wishes to your wife and your entire family, PW.

My best wishes to all.
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Thanks guys. Sorry for losing it for a minute (for those that read my posts before I cooled down and edited them).

I hope you all can understand that Iím a bit worried about my household, considering my wifeís profession. Itís an everyday worry, so I lost it a bit when that clown said that he hopes...ah, never mind. Not worth mentioning



Yesterday, I inspected my spark plug tubes and front engine mount with my homemade inspection camera. Unfortunately, I couldnít get a good angle on the mount to see the condition of the insert, so Iíll have to pull the front engine cover to see if I can get a better look.
But, I canít do that until the temps rise a bit because I donít want to crack the rear vinyl (hmmm...maybe a space heater in the passenger compartment?).

Iíve had a new serpentine belt and front mount insert on the parts shelf for 2 years. Iím ready to get it done!
Also on the agenda: installing the new rotors my son bought me for Christmas and adjusting the e-brake shoes whilst in there.
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So I caught this guy perched on the top of my '90 944S2 cabriolet a while back.

What should I have done?

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She STILL hasnít received any PPE (N95 masks). We canít even buy her any because of moronic idiots hoarding them.
I sent her to work with my P100 respirator that I use in the shop.

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Not trying to stir the pot more, but if a health care provider isn't infected with the corona virus, do the mask's actually do much good. If infected, I can see how it help's to slow the spread, but if a person isn't infected, the constant breathing thru a mask would become a Petri dish of sorts. The amount of PPE needed for just one healthcare worker to use and change to prevent any type of cross contamination is just unimaginable. I agree that hoarders are idiots, but why didn't her clinic have a large supply in stock. The school that I teach a weekend class at, keeps about a three month supply and daily they use more than most clinics do with the outbreak.
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Piper6909 it’s so nice to see another person as informed as myself. I am a news junkie also, I just wish everyone was as informed that way there would be no chance of re-electing the worst president in my 63 year lifetime. I thought there would never be a time that I wish we had W back. I was wrong.
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well here's the view from a NYC worker who lives in NJ. Both my folks are battling cancer and a list of other illnesses too long to list. They live in Florida and I fly back and forth several times a month to help with their illnesses as I have no siblings to chip in. Last year I had to take two months off as both of my folks had to be hospitalized (thank you New York State Family Leave that protected me from losing my corporate job). A stroke left my father bedridden with cancer. My mother had a severe complication with an experimental heart implant device and she's not been well ever since. I have been back and forth to the hospital in an ambulance too many times to count. The local paramedics know us well. The emergency room staff and nurses are all familiar faces. A good friend in Florida going through a near identical situation with his bedridden father ended up with a MRSA infection himself was laid off after exhausting time off as he'd just switched job. A year earlier both my father and mother ended up with severe flu and bilateral pneumonia. Both were on the same hospital floor just two rooms apart. That was the first time I got the call of "you better come back to the hospital right now your father's fever is not coming down". But he willed himself back by not refusing a single meal, sip of water, a single dose of medication and summoning all the strength of a man over 80.

So long way to say I'm very familiar with "it's just the flu" sentiments and how NOT well staffed and equipped hospitals are. One thing I see time and time again is that in a for profit hospital system they simply do not build in the staff, supplies and equipment for a pandemic. Many times we are told there arent any rooms available we'll have to keep you guys in the ER treatment area for the night. Also, I have recently developed my own health issues that would not mix well with a corona class virus. Also, my folks were severely affected by the 2009 financial catastrophe so I'm pretty much all that's keeping their retirement from becoming a burden to the state. The cost of healthcare in this country is such that you better be either very much destitute or very wealthy if you end up with a catastrophic illness like cancer. Even with Medicare the out of pocket costs are crushing on a fixed income. Aside from the financial responsiblity, If I go down in an ICU to this "flu" my folks won't see me again. And vice versa.

So a few weeks ago someone in our new Hudson Yards NYC office tested positive. It was one of the first confirmed cases in NYC. They didn't bother to tell us until the day it broke on Page Six. Thanks for that Mr. Ross. They basically evacuated the whole multi billion dollar complex the next day. We've been working remotely for a week now but as far as livelihoods this has basically wrecked everything. Every deal has been put on ice. All valuations done before this are garbage. Firms are trying to get out of deals they've already made. Some clients are openly discussing bankruptcy to get out of deals or just pay out the painful break up fees that kick in for walking away. Oh and the stock market crashed 25-30% depending on the day of the week. You know a minor side distraction. I'm getting worrisome emails that are giving me the impression that we're in imminent danger of a trigger event in the financial markets if some other shoe drops this quarter. Prior to all this for 2019, about 33% of all S&P 500 companies had posted *declining* earnings over the previous 12 months. GDP was *stalled* at or below 2% for the previous 9 months. GDP growth for 2020 was expected to go lower still. Stocks trading 25x earnings? Yeah that's totally great before a steep correction. So things in the real economy were shaky to begin with and now the equivalent of a Hurricane Sandy federal disaster but instead of a one night "act of God" event it's every single day for weeks. Then we get the email that an additional two people at our office are positive or in isolation for COVID-19. This complicates things because I may be asymptomatic and can't go near my folks who are now both coughing for the last few days. I was hoping to go down to Florida and help them out which I do practically every two weeks for at least a long weekend. And ironically for once a last minute flight on United isn't $500+.

And most troubling is that Florida's genius governor allowed all the spring breakers to come in during a national pandemic in a state with one of the highest elderly populations. Great thinking Ron. especially as one of the states without the Medicaid expansion..$35k treatment per COVID-19 case.. awesome. Checking Kinsa's network of smart thermometer tracking the entire state is lit up red with an "atypical" fever pattern. Atypical in that Kinsa's modeling takes into account allergy season and Florida, Lousiana and the Michigan area are all showing a fever pattern that may be consistent with early COVID-19 symptoms. The next two weeks will determine if Florida's late shelter in place orders will have a dire impact.

As far as Trump's role in this debacle. Things he's said while I've been experiencing all this really make me wonder if he's literate. His defenders say "no Trump didn't call the virus a hoax he said the Democrats were using it as a hoax". Okay. So let's recall his visit to the CDC "it's all under control"... "Cases are going DOWN not up"... "the vaccine will be ready soon"...."No.. DISAGREE it's not inevitable that cases will go into the thousands. It's at 200 now.. it could go to zero". He said that last one a mere two weeks ago when Italy and other countries were already into the thousands of infections. And he voiced skepticism of thousands of new infections contrary to the belief of every single physician and scientist of note. And my favorite of all "Yes I've been around people who were confirmed positive but NO... I don't need to be tested I have no symptoms"... as he stood less than an arm's length from individuals over age 70. And they inexplicably continued holding the press conferences in the smallest room of a 30 room White House mansion...despite the fact that press conferences have been held in the largest rooms for decades. No let's pack all the asymptomatic into a small room with the nation's most important leaders charged with a national security emergency.

My guess is that Dr. Trump had baseless confidence that cases would go to zero because he gave himself credit for closing travel to and from China. Either he didn't bother to read the "code red" memos or just willfully disregarded the fact that Italy also closed its airports to travel from China more or less the same time we did. Yet they still ended up with a massive spread of the virus by not testing everyone... and numerous other mistakes we have been making, even now. Trump thought if he delayed the mass testing it wouldn't disturb the stock market and the onset of the warmer months would resolve the virus on it's own. But this had no basis in fact because the Corona viruses increased exponentially in both Australia where its summer now and in Singapore where the climate is tropical.

Even now at this moment, with 80k confirmed cases and no federal mandate by HHS or the CDC to test flu and pneumonia deaths post mortem in order to determine if it was a COVID-19 case, we have no plan to test every person in the country with at least priority to close quarter zip codes. Meanwhile Amazon have 220 milion customers in a country of 330 million. Did anyone in this administration sit down with Jeff Bezos and the others at Amazon and Walmart to authorize by Presidential emergency powers during an actual state of emergency that they source test kits from all over the world (literally what they do!), shipping them out to all Amazon customers and then return shipping the tests to foreign and domestic laboratories globally to process? Did he ask Amazon or Walmart to roll out apps that would notify people to call their testing laboratory the instant their result was ready with instructions to encourage all their close contacts to get tested immediately? Did he call Google into the room to develop a feature in Maps to alert the public to block by block clusters of infections? Did he call Verizon, Tmobile and At&t into the room to use amber alert type text notifications of high infection areas? Have we even once used the emergency text system during this entire shut down? But of course as Trump says "no one could have imagined this could happen" nevemind that Bill Gates and Trump's own multi agency Crimson Contagion drill told him a year ago that we were INADEQUATE. And now without a single physician or scientist backing him up he's saying parts of America can end social distancing and huddle together the asymptomatic with the at risk groups. This is all surreal.

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Not trying to stir the pot more, but if a health care provider isn't infected with the corona virus, do the mask's actually do much good. If infected, I can see how it help's to slow the spread, but if a person isn't infected, the constant breathing thru a mask would become a Petri dish of sorts. The amount of PPE needed for just one healthcare worker to use and change to prevent any type of cross contamination is just unimaginable. I agree that hoarders are idiots, but why didn't her clinic have a large supply in stock. The school that I teach a weekend class at, keeps about a three month supply and daily they use more than most clinics do with the outbreak.
The masks are to prevent her from getting infected, not the other way around. She is in her 40's and suffers from severe asthma. And, as I said, they have been the victims of massive theft.

Exam rooms have now been stripped bare by staff because people steal anything not bolted down. The masks have been gone for some time and even clinics are having a very hard time finding them.
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... And, as I said, they have been the victims of massive theft.

Exam rooms have now been stripped bare by staff because people steal anything not bolted down. The masks have been gone for some time and even clinics are having a very hard time finding them.
I saw a lot of that around Oklahoma/Arkansas. Most hospitals had kept PPE easily accessible where workers could easily grab it when needed. There was no need to keep it locked up and nobody took more than what they needed for the moment. When it became clear that most PPE came from China and that the supply would run short (before a wide outbreak in the USA was considered likely) hoarding started and the stuff that had been left unsecured disappeared quickly. I can usually get fresh gloves at a facility, but keep my mask until it is damaged, soiled, or hard to breathe through. We still have plenty in our (locked) supply, that we are are conserving.

My daughter (Nursing home LPN) was wearing scrubs and had her cloth mask when she stopped at a gas station convenience store on the way home. She was confronted and told to leave. They didn't want 'her kind' around spreading the virus.
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I build houses or try to. The governor shut us down. We can be fined or loose our license if caught working over the next 3 weeks this is not law but an executive order. The work police can pull you over and ask to see your papers proving you have her permission to work. This is Michigan not some communist country last I checked. I think the president is doing the best he can under the circumstances. I believe a lot of this is politically motivated. The states with democratic governor seem to be overdoing the restrictions. I agree the cost of shutting down the economy will outweigh the benifit over time. The old sick and at risk should stay home. The rest of us need to be cautious but become productive. Anybody got any extra tp
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Working under the hood of my '84 Shark right now, I kinda feel like the cat. The shark is winning.

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