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BYprodriver 02-04-2020 09:51 AM

Lessons in proper decorum
 
Hey y'all:

I'm posting this thread as a bit of a wake-up call.



However: Unfortunately there are always those who sour the barrel.

Starter986 02-04-2020 11:39 AM

Hi BYP. Would you take a moment to be a little more specific your position? Clearly you've a thorn in your paw. Hope it works out. :cheers:

Frodo 02-04-2020 12:28 PM

No comment...yet.

BYprodriver 02-04-2020 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starter986 (Post 611204)
Hi BYP. Would you take a moment to be a little more specific your position? Clearly you've a thorn in your paw. Hope it works out. :cheers:

As if you don't already know, Spaming my post with your partner in crime!

maytag 02-04-2020 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frodo (Post 611212)
No comment...yet.

Hehe.... wise man.
I should've done the same Haha

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Brian in Tucson 02-04-2020 03:48 PM

Does anyone know what the heck he's talking about?

piper6909 02-04-2020 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian in Tucson (Post 611234)
Does anyone know what the heck he's talking about?

Not me. I looked all the way back to November for a thread he started that someone may have spammed or hijacked, but I didn't find any.

Fiddlebog 02-04-2020 04:19 PM

https://media1.tenor.com/images/f7e5...temid=10966818

piper6909 02-04-2020 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fiddlebog (Post 611236)

Don't set your hair on fire, though! :D

Geof3 02-04-2020 10:54 PM

Totally off topic... but I’m guessing SOTA

Nine8Six 02-05-2020 02:01 AM

Had to google the word "decorum" :o

itsnotanova 02-05-2020 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piper6909 (Post 611235)
Not me. I looked all the way back to November for a thread he started that someone may have spammed or hijacked, but I didn't find any.

"Ready to install & dominate__________________
Jerk that is constantly criticzing new forum members and overly advertising my rebuilt engine for sale for a highly inflating price along with other miscellaneous parts accumulated over my 20 years of ownership."

Probably has something to do with this

Starter986 02-05-2020 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BYprodriver (Post 611213)
As if you don't already know, Spaming my post with your partner in crime!

Listen BYP... You're one of those guys on this forum that I look up to for advice and guidance. I may not ask you directly... but your direction and guidance when others inquire inspire me. You've got cred in my book

You're in OC, not far from me, and I consider that "something in common". I've family in MJ... so I don't raz you because I don't know if when I'm down there you'll recognize me and pound the **************** out of me. You might be bigger than me. ;)

That said... When have I spammed your post(s)? Dude... I like your engine. I wish I had the quid for it, seriously. I recognize the hard work you put into and... I don't care how many years ago you did it. I ask you to step up to the plate and share with me when and where ever I spammed your post(s). If I did... it wasn't intentional and, if I did, I'll apologize. I may raz new people... but I respect my elders. You have my respect.

And Maytag... he seems to be a great guy. Seems fair and balanced... is building some kind of monster... has some great comebacks and, I like to think, believes our members are unified... connected... we have something in common and... like a "family" have disagreements and slights from time to time. That's what makes up our "community". Try to square up with him so you may find peace, Man. I mean that.

I do hope you have a great day. Cheers. :cheers:

piper6909 02-05-2020 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsnotanova (Post 611259)
"Ready to install & dominate__________________
Jerk that is constantly criticzing new forum members and overly advertising my rebuilt engine for sale for a highly inflating price along with other miscellaneous parts accumulated over my 20 years of ownership."

Probably has something to do with this

Thanks, Woody. Maybe I'm dense, but I'm still not clear. I've seen no post that resembles that. If BYP wants to publicly air grievances, he should name names and specify causes. I hope whatever happened is cleared up for all parties involved.

I respect BYP's input to this forum and don't want to see him or anybody get fed up and leave or refrain from posting. Even the those I've had arguments with. The loss to the forum would be immeasurable.

Peace.

maytag 02-05-2020 06:30 AM

It's me he's upset at. Starter got caught in the crosshairs through association. haha.

It started in this thread:
http://986forum.com/forums/boxster-cayman-parts-sale-wanted/77114-wtb-2003-engine-intake-vents.html

He (BYProvider) felt like the first two posted replies were "rudely irrelevant", as he stated in another thread he started, asking the mods to remove them.

And then I antagonized him. I did. The part of me that always says "sometimes mean is still funny" came out. and I forgot that my kids always remind me "yeah Dad, and sometimes funny is still mean".

I've since made an effort through PM's to be somewhat conciliatory, and he has confirmed there that his issues with me go far beyond that thread. Which seems obvious. I don't know what the issues are, but I absolutely believe him that I've offended him... especially since he started poking at me.

I think we should let this sleeping dog lie. Or this dead horse rot, or whatever. It serves nobody and nothing to "get to the bottom of it".

I pledge to be really super-careful whenever BYProvider is posting, so as not to step on his hoo-hah. He has valuable knowledge that serves this forum, but so what... even if he didn't, this should remain a fun place for him to be.

BYprodriver 02-05-2020 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piper6909 (Post 611235)
Not me. I looked all the way back to November for a thread he started that someone may have spammed or hijacked, but I didn't find any.

Thats because it's in my latest post in the "Parts for sale" thread where you would not expect a longtime forum member to hijack with spam. Especally one that has posted rants about member decorum previously. Maytag & Starter986!

Starter986 02-05-2020 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BYprodriver (Post 611275)
Thats because it's in my latest post in the "Parts for sale" thread where you would not expect a longtime forum member to hijack with spam. Especally one that has posted rants about member decorum previously. Maytag & Starter986!

Show me the spam. Regardless of my occasional testiness with new members, you show me... you illustrate with links... put your money where your mouth is... and show me the spam. Please.

With all due respect, Sir, p iss or get off the pot.

BYprodriver 02-05-2020 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starter986 (Post 611279)
Show me the spam. Regardless of my occasional testiness with new members, you show me... you illustrate with links... put your money where your mouth is... and show me the spam. Please.

With all due respect, Sir, p iss or get off the pot.

It is clearly explained not only in my previous post,but also tellingly in your signature motto.

maytag 02-05-2020 09:47 AM

Let it Go.....

Starter986 02-05-2020 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BYprodriver (Post 611281)
It is clearly explained not only in my previous post,but also tellingly in your signature motto.

Countdown To Extinction. I love that song, particularly the line "Ignore the guilt, take your turn".

You see... my wife believed the Porsche to be too flashy... too lofty for what she believed her station in life to be. I told her that one, it's a 98... it's not a supercar. Two, I told her that she... we... earned it. We work hard. We play hard. Kids are raised... and we've 8 grandkids between us. She intimated she felt some guilt because there are others who are less fortunate than us. I told her, "Ignore the guilt, take your turn". Matter of fact, I had that statement engraved into a 1x2 inch metal nameplate now adhered to the bottom of the center console so that, if she feels a pang of guilt, she can be reminded that it's her "turn". That's all. Nothing else. So, **************** your "tellingly. My gloves are off.

And no, you didn't "clearly" explain in your previous post.. or posts you got so many going on this topic. Don't beat around the bush running off to the moderators (ha). I'm a man... so tell me straight up (there won't be a next time, be assured). I don't really know you other than what I perceive to be your extraordinary mechanical expertise... the stuff you share with the newbies, like me. I'm bulletproof. My feelings won't be hurt.

I'm sorry you feel so terribly, I really do BYP. I'm not mean spirited. Sarcastic? Cocky? Forward? Direct? Yup. But not mean spririted. Matter of fact... I'd meet with you and buy you a cup of coffee next time I head into MV (not MJ, as previously mentioned). I think you'd find I'm not the **************************** you believe me to be.

All that said... I'll see you around, here. Maybe MV. Have a great day... and know that you're respected, in spite of my comments. Finally, in the future I'll exercise greater caution before posting anything not related to your respective posts topic.

Cheers, Handsome. :)

maytag 02-05-2020 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starter986 (Post 611286)
You see... my wife believed the Porsche to be too flashy... too lofty for what she believed her station in life to be. I told her that one, it's a 98... it's not a supercar. Two, I told her that she... we... earned it. We work hard. We play hard. Kids are raised... and we've 8 grandkids between us. She intimated she felt some guilt because there are others who are less fortunate than us. I told her, "Ignore the guilt, take your turn". Matter of fact, I had that statement engraved into a 1x2 inch metal nameplate now adhered to the bottom of the center console so that, if she feels a pang of guilt, she can be reminded that it's her "turn".

doood.....
at the risk of hijacking another thread: I LOVE this!
If I USE it.... and do likewise.... am I required to give you some sort of attribution? haha.
I'm not sure a 1"x2" metal plaque will hold:
Ignore the Guilt... take your turn.
attr: Starter986, 986Forum.com

piper6909 02-05-2020 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maytag (Post 611273)
It's me he's upset at. Starter got caught in the crosshairs through association. haha.

It started in this thread:
http://986forum.com/forums/boxster-cayman-parts-sale-wanted/77114-wtb-2003-engine-intake-vents.html

He (BYProvider) felt like the first two posted replies were "rudely irrelevant", as he stated in another thread he started, asking the mods to remove them.

And then I antagonized him. I did. The part of me that always says "sometimes mean is still funny" came out. and I forgot that my kids always remind me "yeah Dad, and sometimes funny is still mean".

I've since made an effort through PM's to be somewhat conciliatory, and he has confirmed there that his issues with me go far beyond that thread. Which seems obvious. I don't know what the issues are, but I absolutely believe him that I've offended him... especially since he started poking at me.

I think we should let this sleeping dog lie. Or this dead horse rot, or whatever. It serves nobody and nothing to "get to the bottom of it".

I pledge to be really super-careful whenever BYProvider is posting, so as not to step on his hoo-hah. He has valuable knowledge that serves this forum, but so what... even if he didn't, this should remain a fun place for him to be.

Wow. I don't see what you did to provoke post #7, but it sure went off the rails fast!

Hey, BYP: A suggestion from an impartial observer here. If Maytag apologized, accept it and move on. Heck, at least you got an apology. I've clashed with Maytag and Starter, among others, and never got any apologies and I let it go! ;) Actually I did get an apology from one member. Either way, I'm still cool with them all. I don't know if they're all cool with me, though. haha!

Just a suggestion. :cheers:

I'm staying out of this now.

Hey Fiddledog, care to share your popcorn?

Brian in Tucson 02-05-2020 12:11 PM

I used to get in a lot of trouble with the owner of the KLR forum. Cussed him out one time about guns. Learned long ago to NEVER post anything when I was drinking. Sober posting has resulted in the mild mannered bloke that I am today. I've mentioned before that Raby-esque built motors are lovely and I'd really like one, but they aren't at all in my price neighborhood. I may have offended the original poster, for that I am repentant and sorrowful. Peace?

Starter986 02-05-2020 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by maytag (Post 611289)
doood.....
at the risk of hijacking another thread: I LOVE this!
If I USE it.... and do likewise.... am I required to give you some sort of attribution? haha.
I'm not sure a 1"x2" metal plaque will hold:
Ignore the Guilt... take your turn.
attr: Starter986, 986Forum.com

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Attribution to Mr. Mustaine. ;)

:cheers:

Starter986 02-05-2020 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by piper6909 (Post 611290)
...and Starter, among others, and never got any apologies and I let it go! ;)

Dude!

https://youtu.be/B5-8_1uCzR8

Sorry, I've no LOVE emoticons.

piper6909 02-05-2020 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starter986 (Post 611301)
Dude!

https://youtu.be/B5-8_1uCzR8

Sorry, I've no LOVE emoticons.

Haha! :cheers:

Frodo 02-05-2020 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian in Tucson (Post 611296)
Learned long ago to NEVER post anything when I was drinking. Sober posting has resulted in the mild mannered bloke that I am today.

Great googly-moogly, has this ever gotten my butt into trouble.
You’d think I’d learn, but no. Haven’t quit doing it. Drinkin’. Or subsequent, alcohol-fired posting*

*Actually once got fired from a job this way. Got home at the end of a tough day, pissed. Don’t even remember exactly at what, but had myself a couple remedial brewskis. Next thing you know, I’m at the keyboard, bangin’ out an email to my boss about how I thought she needed to amend how things got done there. It was all totally justified commentary—I swear!—done reasonably tactfully (esp considering my state of mind). Took another swill, hit “Send.”

She never was very good at taking constructive criticism…got fired in the return email a few minutes later. I was okay with that. It was crazy, the aforementioned boss (‘Wendy’) fired people left and right. Place was a revolving door. I’ve talked to a few of the others. We keep thinking we all need to get together for drinks, maybe annually, the I-too-was-fired-by-Wendy club. It could be a sizable gathering. There’d be lots of ridiculously funny stories..

husker boxster 02-05-2020 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Frodo (Post 611306)
Great googly-moogly, has this ever gotten my butt into trouble.
You’d think I’d learn, but no. Haven’t quit doing it. Drinkin’. Or subsequent, alcohol-fired posting*

*Actually once got fired from a job this way. Got home at the end of a tough day, pissed. Don’t even remember exactly at what, but had myself a couple remedial brewskis. Next thing you know, I’m at the keyboard, bangin’ out an email to my boss about how I thought she needed to amend how things got done there. It was all totally justified commentary—I swear!—done reasonably tactfully (esp considering my state of mind). Took another swill, hit “Send.”

She never was very good at taking constructive criticism…got fired in the return email a few minutes later. I was okay with that. It was crazy, the aforementioned boss (‘Wendy’) fired people left and right. Place was a revolving door. I’ve talked to a few of the others. We keep thinking we all need to get together for drinks, maybe annually, the I-too-was-fired-by-Wendy club. It could be a sizable gathering. There’d be lots of ridiculously funny stories..

Are you a legend at your former work place? I worked for almost 35 yrs at a famous insurance company in Omaha (who hosted a famous TV show, hint, hint). There is a story about a guy who was having a bad morning. He went out for lunch and never came back. His last name was Warden. He's famous (or infamous?) because anytime there was a nice day and someone might take vacation, we joked it was a high Warden index day. He was gone for decades but his legacy lived on.

I almost got fired for an email to my boss. It was common place to get a new mgr about every 3 yrs. The one I had at this particular time wasn't very good but I figured I'd wait her out til the next musical chairs. One of the cloud thinkers came up with an idea to not schedule any mtgs on Fri in his area. My mgr thought that sounded like a good idea and asked our team if we should buy in. All the butt sniffers were saying it was a great idea. I applied some logic to the situation and asked if we were going to have 20% fewer mtgs or were we going to schedule over lunch hrs and late afternoons on Mon-Thu to make up for Fri? We had flextime and I chose to come to work early, but no one ever came in for an early mtg and no one was to question attendance to a late afternoon mtg. My logic pi$$ed off my mgr. She pulled me into a conf room and said I was "this close" to being written up by HR. She showed my email to several mgrs and they all were shocked. :eek: Made me re-evaluate the content of my emails before hitting send. My mgr and I patched things up and got along great, but it took a while.

maytag 02-05-2020 06:49 PM

I've got an employee who has quit many times, via text, Facebook, email and phone. All while drunk.... and all forgotten when he showed up for work the next morning.


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Frodo 02-06-2020 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by husker boxster (Post 611331)
Are you a legend at your former work place? I worked for almost 35 yrs at a famous insurance company in Omaha (who hosted a famous TV show, hint, hint). There is a story about a guy who was having a bad morning. He went out for lunch and never came back. His last name was Warden. He's famous (or infamous?) because anytime there was a nice day and someone might take vacation, we joked it was a high Warden index day. He was gone for decades but his legacy lived on.

A legend? Hero for a day? Doubt it, but who knows—never set foot in the place again. I thoroughly doubt I attained “Warden status.” I’ve been working as an independent contractor these last few years—and I was only at this place one day a week. If I did so, it was short-lived, just until the next axing took place :D

BTW, I LOVED that show…”Here’s Jim, hanging off the side of a moving Jeep, attempting to lasso, then wrestle that water buffalo to the ground..” :eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by maytag (Post 611334)
I've got an employee who has quit many times, via text, Facebook, email and phone. All while drunk.... and all forgotten when he showed up for work the next morning.


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Hey, you guys are in UTAH...you're not allowed to drink there are you?? :rolleyes:

maytag 02-06-2020 04:41 PM

Yeah so, I don't mean to Stir the poop or anything, but this thread about how rude it is to hijack threads has really been hijacked!

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piper6909 02-06-2020 05:04 PM

Yeah, all we need now is someone to inject politics into the conversation! :D:D

thstone 02-06-2020 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piper6909 (Post 611378)
Yeah, all we need now is someone to inject politics into the conversation! :D:D

Naw, if we're gonna do it, let's do it right - let's talk about IMS bearings, oil, and tires! :matchup:

piper6909 02-07-2020 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thstone (Post 611384)
Naw, if we're gonna do it, let's do it right - let's talk about IMS bearings, oil, and tires! :matchup:

That's TOO contentious! Even for me! HAHA!

Burg Boxster 02-07-2020 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thstone (Post 611384)
... let's talk about IMS ...

IMS as in Innovative Market Systems aka Bloomberg terminals?

@Starter986 & @Piper6909 - see what I did there?

;)

Finnegan 02-07-2020 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frodo (Post 611306)
Great googly-moogly, has this ever gotten my butt into trouble.
You’d think I’d learn, but no. Haven’t quit doing it. Drinkin’. Or subsequent, alcohol-fired posting*

*Actually once got fired from a job this way. Got home at the end of a tough day, pissed. Don’t even remember exactly at what, but had myself a couple remedial brewskis. Next thing you know, I’m at the keyboard, bangin’ out an email to my boss about how I thought she needed to amend how things got done there. It was all totally justified commentary—I swear!—done reasonably tactfully (esp considering my state of mind). Took another swill, hit “Send.”

She never was very good at taking constructive criticism…got fired in the return email a few minutes later. I was okay with that. It was crazy, the aforementioned boss (‘Wendy’) fired people left and right. Place was a revolving door. I’ve talked to a few of the others. We keep thinking we all need to get together for drinks, maybe annually, the I-too-was-fired-by-Wendy club. It could be a sizable gathering. There’d be lots of ridiculously funny stories..

Sometimes, bridges need burning!

Frodo 02-07-2020 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finnegan (Post 611398)
Sometimes, bridges need burning!

Truer words have never been spoken.
I knew we were potentially headed in that direction at the time, and I was fine with that.
I just kinda sped things up—appreciably—with that email.
Crossed that bridge, liberally sprinkling accelerant as I walked. Then she lit the match, and (poof!) that was that! :p

piper6909 02-07-2020 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burg Boxster (Post 611394)
IMS as in Innovative Market Systems aka Bloomberg terminals?

@Starter986 & @Piper6909 - see what I did there?

;)

I approve! :cheers:


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