Boxster piston ring end gaps?
Hi All,
I`m wondering if i should buy new rings for the pistons. Not sure if this has ever been released by Porsche, does anyone know the end gap tolerance values for the 2.5L engine? Thanks! |
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Is there pressure buildup from the engine case breather, if not, rings are probably fine. If the car is for high RPM, a slightly larger gap is ok as very little gas/air gets through the gap a such a short time. Hasting Rings says 0.014 " per inch of bore. I'm sure there will be after market rings for sale. Most ring widths today are roughly the same for similar size pistons. I haven't stripped a 986 motor but I presume they are nikasiled, so get compatible rings. Ie not for cast iron. I have a 2.7 motor in the shed just waiting for some spare time to give it a full overhaul. |
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Thanks for the answer. Unfortunately I know nothing about the pressure buildup bc I`ve never seen this engine run. I looked at a Haynes manual for my SAAB 900, based on that values the second ring is out of spec (SAAB uses Mahle pistons and rings as well, the bores are larger though, so I don`t know how accurate that is for a Porsche). Based on what you are saying it really depends on the bore size so it still might be good, I`ll check that out. My worry is mostly about the side rails for the oil ring, if I place them into the bore I can see through the ring and the bore. Interestingly, you can buy aftermarket rings for all the other engines but not for the 2.5L. For my car the only option I found is to buy the originals, that cost around 2K so it`s out of the equation. I did some research and found that certain BMW rings are the same in size, I`m not sure those are good for Nicasil though.. |
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I understand the 2.5 and 2.7 are basically the same motor. The 2.7 has a 6 mm longer stroke and the pistons are 3mm lower to fit. My guess is the rings are the same if you can get 2.7s. I'm sure there are aftermarket ones available for a few $100. Rings aren't rocket science. |
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https://www.auto-data.net/en/porsche-boxster-986-2.7-boxter-24v-228hp-6710 I`ll check what the manual says about this. |
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If you're trying to do this even partially "right", you shouldn't be letting $100 worth of snap gauges and a caliper stop you. Take your time, do it right. You'll be glad you did. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk |
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This would do it, for sure no machine shop would measure the wear and ovality for me for this much:
https://www.amazon.com/Blesiya-50-160mm-Cylinder-Internal-Measuring/dp/B07K59JPYH/ref=sr_1_8?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1547515233&sr= 1-8&keywords=bore+gauge+metric |
I still don`t know if the 2.5L and 2.7L piston rings are interchangable. Based on the dimensions (bore size and thickness) they should be identical. However, the sellers say the 2.7L rings won`t fit my 2.5L engine based on the catalog. Am I still missing something here? I already posted some info about the ring end gap measurements in my show&tell gallery and asked the same question there: http://986forum.com/forums/show-tell-gallery/73917-blue-boxster-resurrection-project.html
Perhaps more people read this thread and there`s somebody out there who has seen both of these engines apart and know the answer? Thanks! |
Dial the dealer?
Post up on Rennlist? |
The ring gap will seldom change down the bore. The ring wears and opens up the gap. If there is wear in the bore, you will feel a lip just above where the ring stops at the top. No step, bore ok.
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Mahle piston ring kit Mahle 504 40 N0 EAN 4009026929575 Contains: Mahle 63504, Rechteckring, Nitriert, Heigth 1,2 mm Mahle 63745, Nasenminutenring, Heigth 1,5 mm Mahle 65959, Ölabstreifring (mehrteilig), Nitriert, Height 2,0 mm https://catalog.mahle-aftermarket.com/eu/product.xhtml?eid=1195707#divider Fits: M 96.20, 85,50 Ø, 2.480 ccm M 96.25, 85,50 Ø, 2.687 ccm M 96.22, 85,50 Ø, 2.687 ccm M 97.20, 85,50 Ø, 2.687 ccm M 96.23, 85,50 Ø, 2.687 ccm You'll find infos about correct gap in the workshop manual. There are also piston ring sets for overbore pistons available: Mahle 504 40 N1 Mahle 504 40 N2 Regards from Germany, Markus |
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