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Just picked up a '97 with a laundry list of issues! Steering, locks, CELs, etc!
TL;DR - Bought rough '97 Boxster. Car pulls hard to the left, power steering system is whack, very left-biased (think: Bernie Sanders). Fluid seems okay, no leaks found. Keyfob and central locking issues - electronically remote does nothing. Only good for physical use in locks. CELs: P1123, P1128, P1130 runs rich. Power top is FUBAR'd
Hi there, I'm a pretty car savvy guy. Been buying, selling, wrenching, flipping, driving for ~9 years now. I got bold and tried out the German auto world, and recently VAG cars. I got a rough MK4 Golf TDI, and liked tinkering with that, so I kept going. At first, I was looking for a steal of a 996, then I came back to my senses, but still somehow found myself buying this 986... Asking price was low, the seller was an older woman, and 65k miles. Additionally, she had had $5000 in work done at the dealer, and another $1600 for a new top. All in the last ~400 miles. I felt bad buying it for less than she had forked over to the dealer in the past 3 months, but it still needs a lot. Let's get into it! First, I partially bought this car thinking it was a "VAG platform". I found that I'm quite incorrect. VAG-COM won't even work. After doing some research, I see this is also the case with the immobilizer and programming keys? Issues the car has:
Battery is new, but trashed. Very weak. Needs jump start within 3 days of sitting. Is this a possible cause of wonky electronics? Alternator is a champ at 14V+ Thanks for being a trooper and making it all the way to the end. I'm looking forward to learning a ton about these cars and Porsches in general. Thanks in advance for any help! |
Spent a ton of time working on the car in the past few days.
Changed out the rear wheel bearing. Not so bad, but the SIR tool would have saved several hours. I also removed and tried to restore both door lock actuators. Just a few weeks ago, I did the same thing on my 2000 Golf. When I removed the 986 door lock module, I saw that it is ~100% identical to the one from my Golf. It's even got a VW stamping on it. I took it all apart, and inspected carefully. I didn't find any glaring issues, but I re-soldered the 6 pins by the connector for good measure. The car acts differently now. The car now does not lock the driver's door when using mechanical key. Central locking button on dash is now more responsive. It also now permanently displays a solid red light when the car is on. The 1/4in window microswitches on my driver's door do not register, exterior or interior. They worked perfectly prior. I also dug a bit deeper and found more info. When locking via mechanical key, the car does cycle the locks on the trunks release lever solenoid, and the fuel filler door. Lock --> unlock --> honk honk When pressing the dash button, the same items lock, and stay locked. Now I can sometimes unlock them with the dash button. When restoring the door lock module circuitry, I plugged in both naked circuit boards and tinkered with the microswitches. I actually got the alarm to arm and managed to set it off! This only happened when I pressed on the microswitches corresponding to position of door lock: locked. The issue now is that the little door lock motor will not actuate. I think if I could figure this out, the car would be functional... |
Issue 2 could be the ECU is dead but more likely is the door lock actuators are dead and need to be replaced. After 22 years of use they fail. I had one fail in my 5 year old VW Jetta. They get constant use and its an aggressive action.
I had to replace the door lock actuators in both doors on my 97 when i bought it. Have a look through my post history in the DIY section i posted a while ago about using a VW door actuator. Its the exact same part just without the Porsche part tax. I would make that priority one as theres no point in fixing the steering, CEL, soft top if it gets stolen because you can't lock it. I bought a new lead acid battery from Porsche 6 months ago and haven't had any issues with phantom battery drain but YMMV. |
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I suspect not though, as my Power Steering is still very left biased, but I do believe the high-friction wheel bearing was contributing. The driver's seat is now removed, and I've taken out the immo/CLU box and discovered a lot of corrosion on the wiring harness. I've now ordered a electrical connector pin removal tool, where I plan to remove all the wires and likely re-pin everything. http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1546898664.jpg Quote:
With the Boxster, I noticed something very odd. I got all of the microswitches to work and communicate properly. But, for some reason, the little door lock motor would not spin. I tried observing it with a multimeter and it receives 12v for a fraction of a second. That's when I gave up and tore out the driver's seat. I will update when I re-pin the wires and eliminate the corrosion. Sidenote: how would the car get stolen if the doors are unlocked....? How are they going to start it? Besides, the best way to steal cars nowadays is to use a snatch truck. I've heard of many Boxster, convertible, or even just older car owners leaving their stuff unlocked because they would rather the thief look around and leave than the thief cutting the top or breaking a window to achieve the same result. |
The power steering may be fubar from whacking a curb, bent linkage or bent stuff inside the rack would account for that. It would probably help if you got the front up on jackstands and check functions and conditions of all the parts. Or run it out to an alignment shop and have it inspected.
In my experience, the top and linkage is a nightmare. You can find all of it on Ebay for not too bad prices. On mine, I suspect that I've got to take it down to very basic operation to do proper adjustments and alignment. Pelican has pretty good stuff about aligning the transmissions, but it seems to me that if it's even a little out of adjustment, the top and the clamshell linkage will bind and even pop off or bend. A true nightmare. What happens when you clear the codes is that the readiness monitors also reset. When you drive the car after clearing, the readiness monitors set and detect the cel's. Google "drive cycle" for a generalized discussion of this. I bought mine in Aug. 17. Like you, I got mine very cheap. The saying around here is "There's no such thing as a cheap Boxster!" |
I guarantee you will learn a ton before your done.
Take the battery out, charge it, and load test it. When fully charged it should be over 13.6. |
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I've bought, sold, flipped, fixed about 30 cars now. And I've even started sending them off much better than how I got them. ;) At this point, I find something I like and hunt for a deal. I picked up a beater '00 Golf TDI in April, and done a lot tinkering on that. Engine in limp mode, trans in limp mode, worst brakes I've ever driven on, soggy interior, sagging headliner, non-working central locking, on and on. Now I drive it 500 mi/wk to school and back! My first exploration into diesels and turbos. The saving grace was 'low mileage' (140k), and had solid bones with a surprisingly mint body. I've learned a lot, and not only do I find it personally enjoyable, but I realize I'm building extremely valuable skills for a lifetime of entrepreneurship as well as a career using my mechanical engineering degree. I bought a couple other MK4 VWs as too-good-to-ignore deals popped up (or I sought out), and I was rather hooked. I found VW's way of doing things remarkably similar to BMW's way. A rather proper way of designing things, even if they may be overly-complicated and prone to failure. When it all works properly, it sure is nice to look at. I then made the false assumption that these Pcars borrow all the VW systems, simply with a different drivetrain and body. I was quite wrong. This is my first Porsche, first boxer engine, first convertible, and first rear/mid engined car. I think I'm doin' okay so far. The battery is shot. And I'm just too irked to submit and buy a new one. $130 even at Costco... What itches me is the battery is dated 7/17, and it has a 3 year warranty. And the guy who owned the car at that time is now in prison for possession of $65,000 worth of fentanyl!! :eek: ...found that out about 3 days ago. I wonder if the penitentiary will let him send the receipt via snail mail. Maybe I can convince him it will help soften his sins. |
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