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Jamesp 12-14-2017 05:37 PM

Waaaa! My Ignition Switch Died!
 
Pulling out the old one with wayyy not enough room seems like a right of passage.

Timco 12-14-2017 05:51 PM

You wanted to put all that suspension work off anyway..

Pdwight 12-14-2017 06:59 PM

Removal
 
Im sure you know by now....but removal of the AC vent is a must to get at this project

thstone 12-14-2017 08:15 PM

Warning: Be sure that no one who might be offended by foul language is nearby when undertaking this repair.

KevinH1990 12-15-2017 02:51 AM

I think I'm on my fourth switch. I keep a spare in my parts box. I need to be ready when the current one breaks. Broken switches cause some odd problems.

Jamesp 12-15-2017 04:37 AM

I used the technique from the pelican parts page. Pull out the lower vent tube and remove the electrical connector and two screws. The only hard part was getting my head under the clutch pedal so I could see the second screw. Grinding down a quarter inch drive straight blade screwdriver bit so it is teeny tiny is a must to get access.

p3230 12-15-2017 05:08 AM

I pulled the seat out opened the top so i could lie on the floor of the car and not be tied up like a pretzel to get at it. A few minutes more work but a lot easier.

PaulE 12-15-2017 05:45 AM

The original switch in my 03 lasted 13 years. The Chinese one I bought at NAPA lasted about 6 months and failed when I was picking my car up from my indy specialist just after 5 PM on a weekday. They scrounged around and found a switch to get me going. Next service I upgraded to the newer style column lock and switch, I hope that one lasts 13 years. They showed me how the Chinese switches are made from a much more brittle plastic than the European ones and wear out so much faster. Make sure you use a good brand for the replacement switch, spend the extra $10 or $15 if you have to buy a switch.

MWS 12-15-2017 06:50 AM

The difficulty of trying to get to some of these things always makes me wonder "how would the dealer do this" as there MUST be an easier way. For example, many years back and on a different car, I needed to change an alternator...simple enough, bolt off bolt on, right? I bought a new one and the one to remove was easily visible, however the bolts (or at least one of them) were obscured. After much frustration, I ended up calling the dealer to asked, and the response was "how would WE do it, or how would YOU do it?" I asked how they would, they responded "pull the engine". Being younger and stubborn, I KNEW it could be done...and with several universal-joint socket extensions I set to work. Using a magnet I could seat the socket on the bolt, but then could maybe turn 1/16 of a rotation before I needed to remove/reset socket and then repeat. I eventually removed the single problem bolt, and then reversed the process to put in the new one. To just remove/reinstall ONE bolt took well over 5 hours, and in the process I created many new interesting words to describe my level of happiness felt towards the engineer who thought "this is a good placement".

Point is...well I guess there really isn't a point, except I feel your pain...and I am dreading that moment when I need to do mine.

dsallean 12-15-2017 06:54 AM

Must be the cold weather in TX as mine failed this week as well. Changing it out this weekend I hope.

MHudson 12-15-2017 01:06 PM

I need to do this type of work too, are there any guides out there?

Jamesp 12-15-2017 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MHudson (Post 557949)
I need to do this type of work too, are there any guides out there?

Go to the pelican parts page. I may do a DIY since it is so common.

Eric at Pelican Parts 12-15-2017 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MHudson (Post 557949)
I need to do this type of work too, are there any guides out there?

Hi MHudson, I've included the link to the ignition switch replacement DIY for you:

Porsche Boxster Ignition Switch Replacement - 986 / 987 (1997-08) - Pelican Parts Technical Article

Brockmeister 12-17-2017 02:02 PM

My elbow hurt for 2 weeks after fixing that thing!

dghii 12-17-2017 06:16 PM

I'm with Pdwight, pull AC vent and tube and replace the switch without spending a bunch of time on you back under the clutch pedal.

10/10ths 12-17-2017 06:35 PM

Is this problem...
 
....an issue for ALL 986's or just early year models?

dsallean 12-18-2017 05:37 AM

Did mine thru the AC vent. I did get underneath and pulled out the lower vent tube and was thinking OK maybe if I had two tiny little arms I could get this... Going thru the AC vent was easier, and I have pulled that vent before to replace the light switch.

And I replaced the two tiny set screws with thumb screws that I filed to a point so next time I can just reach in and remove without a tiny screwdriver.http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1513607795.jpg

kjc2050 12-18-2017 06:42 AM

http://986forum.com/forums/boxster-general-discussions/46411-ignition-switch-replacement-holy-crap.html

Read the entire thread.

PaulE 12-18-2017 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10/10ths (Post 558091)
....an issue for ALL 986's or just early year models?

From what I've read the 2004 550 SE has the updated switch and lock assembly that also went into the 987 and 997. Those are supposed to be more robust but I've also read that they still can fail. My 2003 had the earlier one and I've updated to the later style that you should have. My indy told me he hasn't seen any of the newer ones fail yet.

key_lime 12-19-2017 10:46 AM

As mentioned above, the trick here is to remove the side AC vent & vertical AC tube. Doing this exposes the ignition switch assembly from the side/top, which enables you to see, and reach the 2 annoying screws which secure the electrical component into the back of the barrel.

https://i.imgur.com/kfp1uya.png

With the vent out of the way, it’s fairly easy to get your arm through the gap and loosen the 2 screws holding a 3mm slotted bit.

https://i.imgur.com/xiHknWV.png

One thing that caught me off guard when I did this was the quality of the spare electrical component I ordered – the edges of the pins were rough, and it was impossible to clip it into the back of the barrel. Sand paper fixed that!

https://i.imgur.com/3AbsJDr.png

rczap 12-21-2017 11:10 AM

What are the signs of a failed switch? It seems like this past week my car wont turn over on the first turn. I have to turn to run, wait a few seconds then turn to crank. Any thoughts?

Anker 12-21-2017 12:49 PM

The most common symptom I see is that something that should be turned on doesn't. Fits your problem!

Jamesp 12-23-2017 05:19 AM

GRRR.... it wa$n't the $witch. It'$ the Mechani$m.

After making the dive of death under the dashboard to remove and replace the switch, I highly endorse taking out the vent for access.

Good thing this car is a hobby or I'd be really ticked.

356Guy 12-25-2017 11:08 AM

My switch is a little stiff when turning the key so I ordered a URO part for $12. Wish me luck.

356Guy 12-26-2017 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamesp (Post 557922)
I used the technique from the pelican parts page. Pull out the lower vent tube and remove the electrical connector and two screws. The only hard part was getting my head under the clutch pedal so I could see the second screw. Grinding down a quarter inch drive straight blade screwdriver bit so it is teeny tiny is a must to get access.

What was the initial problem you had?

I just removed the switch this morning. I'm waiting for the new switch. I'm not 100% certain that the stiff turning of the key is caused by the switch. The key turns easier without the switch but it is still a little notchy at first turn. We'll see. Yes removal of the lower vent tube and upper AC duct makes removing the upper screw easier. There was red junk in the screw holes that had to be scraped out with a pick first. I had a 1/4" thumb ratchet with a socket and mini bit that worked nicely. Its one of those jobs that would be half the time the second time around.
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1514314552.jpg

Jamesp 12-29-2017 01:30 PM

Out of the blue, one morning the key would not turn. No indication of trouble before complete failure. Then wiggling the key, it would turn a little, bang the steering wheel back and forth a few times and it worked normally for a couple of cycles, then locked up again. No rhyme or reason to it. I replaced the mechanism and all is working normally again. It felt like something was worn inside and trying to go over center when the key was turned.


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