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Supra-P!G 06-09-2017 05:44 AM

Pics of my C4 Sport Design 11.5" wheels on Boxster!
 
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Did the math and mounted these wheels. I really like them! The car looks mean and the ride is improved much my surprise. This was originally meant as an experiment to see if I could, but now I may just keep these on the car.

Luccia at Pelican Parts 06-09-2017 07:46 AM

Those are some wide wheels/tires! Looks good. If you want an extra source for fitment for now or the future (or if anyone else is curious) we have a pretty extensive tech article on wheel fitment. Glad this ended up working out for you! Thanks for sharing. :)

Wheel Fitment and Spacing Guide - Pelican Parts

Nine8Six 06-09-2017 08:10 AM

Can you resize your pics? I'd love to see this... all I see is a long scroll bar at the bottom of my phone man with pics disappearing. Try to stay within 800(width) or 1024 max, makes the forum more enjoyable also

Thanks for sharing those, can't wait to see

Luccia at Pelican Parts 06-09-2017 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 540048)
Can you resize your pics? I'd love to see this... all I see is a long scroll bar at the bottom of my phone man with pics disappearing. Try to stay within 800(width) or 1024 max, makes the forum more enjoyable also

Thanks for sharing those, can't wait to see

Fixed them. :)

Nine8Six 06-09-2017 08:19 AM

Now I know who to look for when these awfully large JPG gets uploaded. Cuts all the fun.

You are a star Luccia, thanks.

And yep, those are super wheels. Cool to see. thanks for sharing

rexcramer 06-09-2017 08:21 AM

Wow, are those wide. You may need mud flaps on the back now. ;)

Supra-P!G 06-09-2017 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by rexcramer (Post 540051)
Wow, are those wide. You may need mud flaps on the back now. ;)

Yes, they are super wide. I used 38 mm spacers on the rears. No issues with rubbing inside, only issue seems to be top of fender on extremely big dips. Will need to install spring stabilizers, or stiffer springs to eliminate that, but it's not bad.

I did read somewhere that the e-brake cables should be zip tied out of the way. The e-brake line seems to be strait and very close the inside wheel, but no touching. How is the line zip tied?

I've put on about 600 miles with these tires/wheels so far.

The Radium King 06-09-2017 09:04 AM

cool - 38 mm spacers - what is the original offset of the wheel?

perhaps a mild roll of the fenders will help w the outside rubbing.

i like that you were able to fit them without having to go to narrow rubber.

what is your rear camber and ride height?

for parking brake cables, there is an oem clip for that purpose, sold for the * i think * 996 turbo, but damned if i can find the part # right now.

ryanjboutin 06-09-2017 09:09 AM

Rear end looks really tall.

Good way to show off the Invo's though. lol

boxxster 06-09-2017 09:15 AM

Way too wide IMO. But it's your car...

The overall diameter looks much larger in the rear too? Kinda looks lifted in the back.

38mm spacers are going to put a ton of extra stress on your wheel bearings as well. The only way I see this working is if you lower the car and add a lot of negative camber in the rear. I'd personally look for that same wheel in a different fitment. Here are the same wheels but with 8.5" fronts and 10" rears:

http://www.qikqbnboxster.mysite.com/...47_500x202.jpg

http://www.qikqbnboxster.mysite.com/...m)_500x370.jpg

See how much better that fits?

ryanjboutin 06-09-2017 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by boxxster (Post 540059)
See how much better that fits?

That's opinion, really.

pidj 06-09-2017 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxxster (Post 540059)
Way too wide IMO. But it's your car...

The overall diameter looks much larger in the rear too? Kinda looks lifted in the back.

38mm spacers are going to put a ton of extra stress on your wheel bearings as well. The only way I see this working is if you lower the car and add a lot of negative camber in the rear. I'd personally look for that same wheel in a different fitment. Here are the same wheels but with 8.5" fronts and 10" rears:

http://www.qikqbnboxster.mysite.com/...47_500x202.jpg

http://www.qikqbnboxster.mysite.com/...m)_500x370.jpg

See how much better that fits?

Those are perfect. It is a preference thing - I like the rubber just falling in line with the edge of the fender. That's a really nice aero kit too.

boxxster 06-09-2017 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ryanjboutin (Post 540061)
That's opinion, really.

I never said anything about aesthetics, I was merely suggesting something that physically fits better and requires no modification while providing more or less the same look.

You're of the opinion that wheels that contact the fender over bumps and require 38mm spacers are a better fit than ones that don't?

JFP in PA 06-09-2017 09:49 AM

I would also question its legality in some states. Police love stuff like this, gives them a reason to pull you over for the tires sticking out past the body without mud flaps to keep them from throwing up debris into the vehicles behind them. And that thing would look just lovely with big old mud flaps on it............

Supra-P!G 06-09-2017 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Radium King (Post 540056)
cool - 38 mm spacers - what is the original offset of the wheel?

perhaps a mild roll of the fenders will help w the outside rubbing.

i like that you were able to fit them without having to go to narrow rubber.

what is your rear camber and ride height?

for parking brake cables, there is an oem clip for that purpose, sold for the * i think * 996 turbo, but damned if i can find the part # right now.

My original calculations (from another post):
Front 205/50/17 on a 7 inch wheel with 55 offset.

Rear 255/40/17 on an 8.5 inch wheel with 50 offset.

If want to install the 911 Sport Design wheels:

Front 235/35/19 on an 8.5 inch wheel with 55 offset = +19 mm inside, and +19 mm outside increase.

Rear 305/30/19 on an 11.5 inch wheel with 67 offset = +57 mm inside and +19 mm outside

I assume that front might be okay, but I should install at least a 7 or 10 mm spacer.

For the rear I need at least 1.5 inch spacer that will leave (38mm - 57mm) about 19 mm closer to the strut.

My question is, can I use the size spacers as I've selected, or do I need to go bigger?
"

These are 6 mm closer to the strut than original rear wheels.

They are supposed to be 1.2 inches taller, but they are actually only 1/2 inch taller. The car is barely any taller, and my speedo is still off in the other direction. So, 80 mph is 79 actual speed.

Supra-P!G 06-09-2017 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pidj (Post 540063)
Those are perfect. It is a preference thing - I like the rubber just falling in line with the edge of the fender. That's a really nice aero kit too.

Yes, I'd rather have the 10 inch rears as in above photo, but I can't find them anywhere. I just need a set of rears. But, I actually am enjoying the way the car looks with those fat tires on the rear.

Nine8Six 06-09-2017 10:20 AM

Its Bad Ass. You do realize you are the 1st in-the-world who've managed to fit them - SuperStar!

Thanks to Jeff's law enforcement advice, gave me a great idea for our upcoming DIY from CAD.prototyping. Me think some of you guys need a concealed "Electromagnetic Pulse Gun" inside those bumperettes

Free for you S/P!G

algiorda 06-09-2017 10:33 AM

I love those wheels. Really "con-temporize" the look of the car.

I do love the Fattness in the rear end shot. Looks really cool.

The Radium King 06-09-2017 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Supra-P!G (Post 540066)
My original calculations (from another post):
Front 205/50/17 on a 7 inch wheel with 55 offset.

Rear 255/40/17 on an 8.5 inch wheel with 50 offset.

If want to install the 911 Sport Design wheels:

Front 235/35/19 on an 8.5 inch wheel with 55 offset = +19 mm inside, and +19 mm outside increase.

Rear 305/30/19 on an 11.5 inch wheel with 67 offset = +57 mm inside and +19 mm outside

I assume that front might be okay, but I should install at least a 7 or 10 mm spacer.

For the rear I need at least 1.5 inch spacer that will leave (38mm - 57mm) about 19 mm closer to the strut.

My question is, can I use the size spacers as I've selected, or do I need to go bigger?
"

These are 6 mm closer to the strut than original rear wheels.

ok, so on the rear you are at 67 - 38 = 29 offset w an 11.5" wheel. i am running a 40 offset w a 10" wheel. i got not much space between my wheel and my coilover, and not much space between my wheel and my fender lip (on a 275 wide tire).

difference in wheel width is 1.5" = .75" on each side = 19 mm wider on each side, but you are pushed out an additional 40-29 = 11 mm, which makes you 19 - 11 = 8 mm closer to the strut than me. i truly think i could not get 8 mm closer to my strut. my conclusion is that this is probably only possible with a 19" wheel which moves the inner lip 1/2" up and further away from the strut than an 18" wheel does.

on the outside, your wheel is 19 + 11 = 30 mm / 1.25" further out than me. i've got -2 camber on the back and couldn't fit an additional 1.25", so fitment would require more camber than i got (which appears to be the case in your photos) and prolly some rolling of the fenders (which appears to be the case in your situation).

good data points; thanks very much. 11" wheels are much easier to find, good to know how they can be made to fit.

Ciao 06-09-2017 11:32 AM

I've always liked those wheels but wondered about their functionality and effects on the suspension notwithstanding how awesome they look on the Boxster

achillies 06-09-2017 11:42 AM

My favorite OEM wheels.

Nine8Six 06-09-2017 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ciao (Post 540085)
I've always liked those wheels but wondered about their functionality and effects on the suspension notwithstanding how awesome they look on the Boxster

There is certainly a trade-off to make - nothing's free in this world. Can't be a 'huge' loss because nobody would change their wheels and spacers. I'm guessing only (lollll could be night/and/day difference also?, nobody would tell you)

About the technical side of it, I personally don't know. Near impossible to solve without hands on experience. All I know for sure is a new bearing is only $9.99 and fun is priceless ;)

The Radium King 06-09-2017 03:48 PM

i *think* they make a 9" rear in 987 fitment as well?

Nine8Six 06-09-2017 04:11 PM

What do you mean...

Stockers are 10" on the 987, I would imagine? If you mean you like the wheel type and want them in 9" then good luck finding a oem kit out there... knockoffs only

The Radium King 06-09-2017 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 540107)
What do you mean...

Stockers are 10" on the 987, I would imagine? If you mean you like the wheel type and want them in 9" then good luck finding a oem kit out there... knockoffs only

sorry; 9.5" ...

Sport Design Wheel question

Nine8Six 06-09-2017 04:22 PM

Desirable wheels, light for their category, but a PITA to clean apparently (see url). Not cheap toys also. I'd look in the aftermarket for the same prices. Unless you are that lucky, and can find a good set for sale around,... I'd be surprised lolll Hot wheels man

Are the Sport Design 19's a valued option?

The Radium King 06-09-2017 04:30 PM

hmm. perhaps the op doesn't have the sport designs

Wheel Enhancement | Porsche Sport Design (997 & 987) wheel

but rather the carrera sports

Wheel Enhancement | Carrera Sport

?

Nine8Six 06-09-2017 04:42 PM

Funny. Looks like there is more than a one gen of each sports/design, can't tell. Op's surely look more like the C Sports as you've pointed though

Nine8Six 06-09-2017 04:53 PM

TRK there are some pretty sweet wheels coming out of Taiwan lately. Beats your domestic manufacturer's techniques/materials but not necessarily price. Not all that cheap but 25x better than oem. Ultralight cat.

...if you are in the wheel market anyway. Japan lost focus. Spotlight on Taiwan mfg at the minute

Quadcammer 06-10-2017 06:38 AM

Sorry but just cause they bolted on, doesnt mean they fit. The car just looks ridiculous

thstone 06-10-2017 09:19 AM

I'd vote for these - just the right proportions (IMHO).

ryanjboutin 06-10-2017 09:47 PM

I would like to see a picture looking down from above, or down the side.
If they stick out past the fenders, then, well, Hawaiian style is best left to the Hawaiian trucks.


But yeah, why such wide wheel spacers on this car? lol

Supra-P!G 06-11-2017 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ryanjboutin (Post 540285)
I would like to see a picture looking down from above, or down the side.
If they stick out past the fenders, then, well, Hawaiian style is best left to the Hawaiian trucks.


But yeah, why such wide wheel spacers on this car? lol

More pics:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1497232061.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1497232036.jpg

That986 06-12-2017 12:04 AM

Way too wide, Carlos Fandango style. A full set of fronts would look good but as it stands i'm sorry but that's not that nice.

And if you need to use anything above 20mm spacer wise then you really do need to look at different wheels. All that extra weight, stress on bearings etc is never good. On a pure show car you'd get away with it but on a car that's meant to be driven i'd expect some parts to start to fail sooner rather than later.

ryanjboutin 06-12-2017 07:47 AM

Are these Boxsters really so fragile that 1.5" wheel spacers will make parts fail?

I've ever had a problem with wheel spacers 1.5" wide on my trucks.

Nine8Six 06-12-2017 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanjboutin (Post 540457)
Are these Boxsters really so fragile that 1.5" wheel spacers will make parts fail?

I've ever had a problem with wheel spacers 1.5" wide on my trucks.

Both ways (big & small wheels), parts of those assemblies will eventually fail. Nothing last forever. However the more mass (and others) that you introduce, faster that failure will occur - normally. Goes a long way... greater axial force, new harmonics, can go on forever like this. Obviously never solved nor tested by Porsche (or anyone?) so all based on luck here.

You need a black paint job if you plan on keeping those wheels on for a while, OP

78F350 06-12-2017 02:40 PM

Maybe keep the wheels and cut down a bit in spacer.
My '01 came with 20x11 wheels. It's a tight fit. It does rub the fender on the sidewall occasionally. I'm guessing that yours rubs fender on the tire tread. Not a configuration I'd take to the track or autocross, but it's nice to see something different from time to time.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1497307118.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1497307141.jpg

Nine8Six 06-12-2017 02:52 PM

Nice arse fellas ;) very nice


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