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Lew 05-22-2017 12:54 PM

Automobile Insurance
 
Anyone used Hagerty Insurance Company. I received a personal quote on my Boxster that is $200 less than Traverlers is charging me . I might add I have two cars insured with Travelers a VW TDI Sportwagen, my Boxster, and a Nissan Pickup. http://www.Hagerty.com

achillies 05-22-2017 01:02 PM

I used Hagerty for a 356. I think Hagerty has mileage and some other restrictions. Like I couldn't use the car for normal work driving. I also had to show another car available to me for normal use. But rates were great and the do agreed value.

Lew 05-22-2017 02:54 PM

Just to see the difference, Travelers is charging me $195 per year for 300/100 Bodily Injury and $57 for 50k for Property Damage. Hargerty quoted $73 for 300/100 BI and 100k for PD, that's doubled Travelers, and Hargerty only wants $25 for PD coverage. All other coverages are also less that Travelers. Nothing mentions how many miles I can drive the car. One other thing is Hargerty's Guaranteed Value on my Boxster.

thstone 05-22-2017 04:45 PM

Hmm.

My experience was similar to achilles: I had Hagerty on my 911SC when I only drove it on weekends and it definitely had a mileage limitation and I had to show that I had another car for daily use. When I decided to make the 911SC my daily driver, Hagerty said that they couldn't insure the 911SC for every day use (and lots of miles per year), so I added the 911SC back to my Mercury policy and dropped Hagerty. Its definitely possible that they have changed their underwriting guidelines, but I'd contact your insurance agent and confirm that you don't have any mileage limitations.

Lew 05-22-2017 05:33 PM

I have a call in for the agent regarding glass coverage and I will question if there are mileage limits. I will mention the only thing I have read in the info packet about mileage is the flat bed towing limits is 15 miles.

dghii 05-22-2017 05:52 PM

I have my Alfa with American collectors in Cherry Hill NJ...I don't remember the specifics of my coverage (matches my GEICO coverage of other cars)...2500 miles a year. ~$140 year.

My brother had two Corvettes with American years ago (mid- 90's) a '78 Pace car and an '86 coupe. Full coverage for both was $400/year.

RobertF 05-22-2017 06:03 PM

I just ran a quote on Hagerty for my '03 Boxster. It came to about 38% less than my current State Farm coverage, a savings of about $220/yr. The website is very explicit about no mileage limits. They do insist that every driver in the household have a daily driver. But the coverage looks good, and it's definitely 'agreed value', and several other features that would be very attractive for true classics and collectibles.

I'm tempted, but some of the savings would be lost, as I'd lose my State Farm multi- car discount on my 328i.

Deserion 05-22-2017 06:12 PM

I looked st Hagerty for my 911 but was put-off by the annual premiums being paid all together. I'm with Leland-West and the service has been very good so far. I have mine set to 3000/year (optimistic) with an occasional commute.

achillies 05-22-2017 06:47 PM

Leland-West looks good but since I only drive the Boxster it won't work for me. Just like Hagerty there must be a separate car for each driver in the house so the car they insure isnt a DD.

alynch 05-22-2017 06:55 PM

I looked at Hagerty as well a couple of years ago but the mileage and use limitations were pretty significant. I'm looking for excuses to drive it not restrictions. I don't really mind the additional State Farm costs to be able to choose when to jump in, drop the top, and listen to the symphony :p

jcslocum 05-23-2017 03:33 AM

The advantage with Hagerty and the like is the agreed value. We have our 1966 Porsche with Hagerty and the Turbo Esprit with Grundy who was cheaper for the Espirt than Hagerty for identical coverage.

Lew 05-23-2017 10:20 AM

The agent with Hagerty I spoke will this AM said with the amount of miles I am driving the car, which is about 2000 to 2400 miles per year Hagerty sees no problem approving the application with the declarations I changed. Things would be different if the mileage were 12k or so per year. She said the application would be approved. I might add, the agreed value on my car is 16k, also there are no deductibles. Looks like I will be saving a couple hundred a year dropping Travelers. Sounds good to me!

PatM 05-23-2017 01:33 PM

State farm
 
Hi I'm an older guy, damn, 69yo
My 2000S is my 3rd car insured and I pay $159/yr on the Box. Classic car less than 5k/yr miles. Accident free!!!!

pidj 05-24-2017 07:50 AM

Canada has the Hagerty-type offering but it's mileage restricted AND some messed up stipulation about having to be driving to a car show blah blah (if something happens - no joy riding) .... screw that. I just go with a big company and get a break for seasonal (reduced) mileage.

One observation is appraising your vehicle. If you appraise it, then it can be insured for the appraised value (obviously at a higher cost) but it stands to reason that less cars would be written off for dented fenders.

dulmer 05-24-2017 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pidj (Post 538280)
Canada has the Hagerty-type offering but it's mileage restricted AND some messed up stipulation about having to be driving to a car show blah blah (if something happens - no joy riding) .... screw that. I just go with a big company and get a break for seasonal (reduced) mileage.

One observation is appraising your vehicle. If you appraise it, then it can be insured for the appraised value (obviously at a higher cost) but it stands to reason that less cars would be written off for dented fenders.


Hmm...

I'm with Hagerty in Canada and I don't mileage restrictions or stipulations of only driving to a car show (which sounds really odd).



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mikefocke 05-24-2017 11:01 AM

I worry about the limits you guys are citing.

I have a friend who showed me his $1.2 million hospital bill and his $50k medivac helicopter ride. That didn't include a year of post-op recovery.

Could have been several people some insurance company was needing to pay for. And at the insurance limit, they send you the bill. I insure for things I can't cover out of my net-worth. My insurance limits are thus more than a little bit higher.

Now put several cars, some of them high end, into the accident scenario and I figure I need the cost of several high end cars. The Porsche I had super high deductibles on. I could afford another one. But not a Benz and a F-car.

If the auto insurance won't cover those limits, then a personal rider which rides on top of your other insurance (house, personal liability, auto) is a possibility.

FoxRvrBox 05-24-2017 12:44 PM

Don't confuse an appraised value with an agreed value. I think Haggerty is agreed value; many other carriers use the appraised value as a cap. You still have to be able to prove your car is worth the appraised value.
And Mikefocke is right - insure what you can't afford to pay for yourself. Umbrella insurance over and above your auto and home policies is relatively inexpensive for another $1M in coverage.

Blackcloud 05-26-2017 06:43 AM

I pay about $500 per year for my 1967 MGB and the 04 Boxster including additional towing mileage. Very happy with Hagerty thus far. Both are agreed value of 15000.

Lew 05-26-2017 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackcloud (Post 538537)
I pay about $500 per year for my 1967 MGB and the 04 Boxster including additional towing mileage. Very happy with Hagerty thus far. Both are agreed value of 15000.

If you don't mind, what are you paying just for the Boxster?

pidj 05-26-2017 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dulmer (Post 538293)
Hmm...

I'm with Hagerty in Canada and I don't mileage restrictions or stipulations of only driving to a car show (which sounds really odd).



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Good to know. Are there any 'gotchas' with their offering, or is it like a 'normal' policy?
I recall a discount offering some 15 years ago (for classic car) that had strange requirements ...

joecal 05-26-2017 11:08 AM

I've used Hagerty quite a few times over the years for different cars and never had a problem, but I never had a claim either. Their rates seem very fair to me and having no deductible and an agreed value is nice. My premium was $278. for the year which expires in July with an agreed value of $8,000. They do want it garaged too I believe.

Blackcloud 05-26-2017 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lew (Post 538539)
If you don't mind, what are you paying just for the Boxster?

It's a combined policy. Call Hagerty. It can't t hurt! No mileage limits as long as you have a daily driver.

dulmer 05-26-2017 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pidj (Post 538554)
Good to know. Are there any 'gotchas' with their offering, or is it like a 'normal' policy?

I recall a discount offering some 15 years ago (for classic car) that had strange requirements ...



No "gotchas" that I could see...


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Lew 05-26-2017 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackcloud (Post 538571)
It's a combined policy. Call Hagerty. It can't t hurt! No mileage limits as long as you have a daily driver.

Not sure if you read all the postings, I have called Hagerty and have a quote. I realize you have a combined policy, but you have to know what you are paying for each car.

Thanks!

BIGJake111 05-27-2017 05:40 AM

Has anyone actually had a claim with hagerty?


I've considered it for my boxster as I drive far less often in college and also do have another car in the family that I would argue I "daily" for running errands and such. However there is an age limit. So I'm asking for future Jake's sake.

moosport 05-27-2017 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mikefocke (Post 538297)
I worry about the limits you guys are citing.

I couldn't agree more with the statement. After 2 out of 3 cars I owned were involved in 5 accidents in 2016.

We up from 300/100 to 500/300. The last accident involved 3 cars hit by a Suburban. The driver only has the basic insurance which is insufficient to cover the property and medical damage. The case is still pending who gets what percentage. Th rest will be coming out from our own insurance State Farm.

Medical billing are still adding up. Make sure you have sufficient coverage for your own medical and run it through your health insurance first. You get better price and the health insurance will claim against the auto insurance.

Lew 05-27-2017 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moosport (Post 538674)
I couldn't agree more with the statement. After 2 out of 3 cars I owned were involved in 5 accidents in 2016.

We up from 300/100 to 500/300. The last accident involved 3 cars hit by a Suburban. The driver only has the basic insurance which is insufficient to cover the property and medical damage. The case is still pending who gets what percentage. Th rest will be coming out from our own insurance State Farm.

Medical billing are still adding up. Make sure you have sufficient coverage for your own medical and run it through your health insurance first. You get better price and the health insurance will claim against the auto insurance.

It's a good thing to raise the amount of Medical Insurance on your vehicles. I had a accident several years ago where I was rear ended and the car was totaled. I wound up in the hospital for a few days and my Medical paid all the bills. Not to mention my Attorney filed suit against the driver that hit me and I received a nice settlement. As for my increased Medical coverage on my vehicle, my attorney was able to get several thousand paid to me by my Insurance Company.....I might mention the suit was filed against StateFarm, and it's who I had insurance with.

As for the quote from Hagerty's, I called back and asked to raise the medical coverage from the their original quote, and the new limit only cost $15 per year.
With the cost of Hospitals today, Doctors, it's the ticket have plenty of medical coverage on your vehicles.


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