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Old 08-17-2006, 11:50 AM   #1
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Detailing, clear-coat care

I browsed through some old threads on detailing here (and some on autopia) and couldn't find an answer to a basic question I have.

I rarely see people here (and, say, autopia) discuss how much a certain abrasive process (washing with Dawn, claying, polishing by hand, by a machine, etc.) irreversibly eats up layers of the original clear-coat. The way I understand, swirl marks aren't really "removed", are they? Clear-coat is actually stripped to even out with the bottom of the swirl channel, right? One definitely removes more clear-coat with a machine than by hand, right?

I mostly read about "results" such as how much the car sparkles and shines after a process has been applied, but would be curious to learn if there is a way to estimate at what level of "clear-coat consumption" that has been achieved. Haven't found one so far.

I've had my black 987S for three months now, have bought a reasonable amount of detailing products, have some more on order. So far have been washing it with the Porsche (P21S?) wash soap, waxed it with the Porsche (P21S?) wax, and then after a month or so re-waxed it with Meguiars NXT wax. Used the Porsche wax on the wheels, as well, and that has kept away break dust and rust very well. Still haven't clayed it (I cringe by the very sound of it) nor have I used any abrasive polish (I have the 3M Hand Glaze). The whole front (bumper, hood, fenders) is clear-bra-ed and I only use Plexus for that half of the car. Still unsure as to what my routine shall/will be and with what products. My goals in order of priority are:

1. least time-consuming (my GF feels entitled to a massage of equal time-length )
2. least clear-coat consuming
3. longest lasting protection
4. nice shine

My situation:
The car is stored inside during the workweek and parked outside and driven every weekend -- quite a lot! I can probably get away with spending 1hr per weekend "massaging" it -- beyod that it eats up too much into my driving time and GF time for the weekend.

Any suggestions?
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One more thing...

To take it in/out of storage I have to drive it on a slightly dusty gravel road for about 100 yards every weekend. So it would be nice if the routine can take this into consideration.
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Old 08-17-2006, 12:14 PM   #4
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To take it in/out of storage I have to drive it on a slightly dusty gravel road for about 100 yards every weekend. So it would be nice if the routine can take this into consideration.

Hose down the gravel like the ground-crews do in baseball!!
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Old 08-17-2006, 12:28 PM   #5
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"I would also recommend that you get Ragg Topp, and apply 3 coats, soon."

If that's smth for the roof, I applied the Porsche Top Protectant just couple of weeks ago. I put a nice layer of it, and water beads like crazy up there. I'll check out Ragg Top. Thx.

As for owning a black car, yes it may require more attention but even without perfect detail it still looks so darn good. I also get a kick out of the before/after contrast especially when "before" gets a bit more dirty (sprinkle rain over a coat of dust with some road splater from driving in the rain, ouch!). The "after" wows me every time even if it's just a simple wash and rinse.
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Old 08-17-2006, 12:56 PM   #6
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"I would also recommend that you get Ragg Topp, and apply 3 coats, soon."

If that's smth for the roof, I applied the Porsche Top Protectant just couple of weeks ago. I put a nice layer of it, and water beads like crazy up there. I'll check out Ragg Top. Thx.
Sounds like you have the roof/top well protected. Good job. The factory coating just does not bead! Kind of surprising.
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Old 08-17-2006, 12:13 PM   #7
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Having a black car is going to require a lot more work and attention.

I have been using the Zaino products since my car was new in March. I love the results. Try www.zainobros.com.

Your car is brand new. So, I don't think you need to clay. At a recent Concours event I attended with the PCA (where I took 2nd place for Class C- interior, exterior and trunks) I was told by several people that they never use clay.

If you go the Zaino route, you really only need Z5 and Z2. If you want you can use the Z6 between layers or for quick touch-ups.

The Z7 car wash is great.

I would also recommend that you get Ragg Topp, and apply 3 coats, soon.

Good luck.

PS- you can cancell the gym membership! You have a black car now...that's all the work-out you'll ever need. Biceps the size of tree trunks are in your future.

My Day was right many years ago, when he told me, "Everyone owns a black car once in their lives!"

PPS- don't listen to Perfectlap...all he will tell you is to put side skirts on your car!!
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