986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners (http://986forum.com/forums/index.php)
-   Boxster General Discussions (http://986forum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=5)
-   -   new old school wheels (http://986forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65124)

m332is 01-24-2017 10:14 AM

new old school wheels
 
just ordered these 18" Fuch's style wheels for my 986 S. The car is black and slightly lowered on H&R springs - unfortunately, the car is in storage until spring :(

m332is 01-24-2017 10:15 AM

sorry here is pic

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1485285278.jpg

m332is 01-24-2017 10:20 AM

Tirerack's online pic of car with wheels is too big to post... so here is a link with their version of the 986 in black with these wheels ...

https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&initialP artNumber=SC1885513048BML&wheelMake=Starke+Design& wheelModel=SC18&wheelFinish=Black+w%2FMach+Lip&sho wRear=yes&selectedRear=SC1810513045BML&autoMake=Po rsche&autoModel=Boxster+S&autoYear=2001&autoModCla r=

Chuck W. 01-24-2017 10:53 AM

I am not a fan of aftermarket wheels on our cars. It is a personal taste thing. But... those look very good. I look forward to seeing them mounted on your car in the spring!

Need_for_speed 01-24-2017 11:16 AM

Like Chuck, I prefer stock wheels, and I was skeptical until I followed your link and saw them on the car. I really like the look on the website, and like Chuck, I'm looking forward to seeing how they look in real life. :cheers:

thstone 01-24-2017 11:36 AM

The Fuch's style is classic and while they may not be perfect for every Porsche, they look surprisingly good on many models other than classic 911's.

m332is 01-24-2017 12:01 PM

I agree, I tend to be rather snobby re wheels, and until I saw the pic on the car, I wasn't sold. The 986 has classic enough lines with the top down that is seems to work with a Fuch's style wheel. The 19" version however was too modern looking for me on a 986.

I did a quick search for feedback on the Starke brand and Rennlist comments seemed positive. We shall see once I see them live :)

boxxster 01-24-2017 12:38 PM

The only thing I don't like is the center caps they come with look a little chintzy. Get something like these and they'll look great.

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...xpert/4fbs.jpg

m332is 01-24-2017 12:42 PM

Your pic isn't working.

First thing my son said was he hated the center caps. From what I read on Rennlist, the stock Porsche center cap fits. I don't want to use the ones from my Turbo Twist 18s so I plan to buy a set of used or knockoffs in black or paint to match.

Ciao 01-24-2017 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m332is (Post 524170)

like to see pic on a 986

Nine8Six 01-24-2017 06:36 PM

m332is - interesting to see that your end price is actually lower than what they go for in the car market here locally (i.e. $325 each). The ones we have here (identical to yours) are made in Ningbo however, very close to Shanghai. Might be the reason for the over-pricing ;)

Looking forward seeing the results. Thumbs up

Javi Cooper 01-24-2017 08:10 PM

Subscribed. I've been waiting to see these wheels on a 986 for a while now.

Smallblock454 01-24-2017 11:15 PM

Here you can take a look at the OEM prices: OTTO FUCHS Felgen: Wheel Selection

The OEM wheels are forged wheels.

Regards, Markus

m332is 01-25-2017 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao (Post 524221)
like to see pic on a 986

click the link on the 3rd post and then page down. It's Tirerack's stock photo (you can change color) with the wheels.

m332is 01-25-2017 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smallblock454 (Post 524239)
Here you can take a look at the OEM prices: OTTO FUCHS Felgen: Wheel Selection

The OEM wheels are forged wheels.

Regards, Markus

Wow, a much superior product and priced accordingly. For my street use and probably 5-6,000 miles per year, it is hard to justify the add'l quality or cost.

BRAN 01-25-2017 07:53 AM

Well my opinion is prejudiced, concerning any kind of FUCHS designs (which i like, of course).
These look pretty good...and if Otto Fuchs wouldn't offer any new ones, I am sure I would have gone with aftermarket ones like those. I've seen a Boxster trying to fit old 16" (?) Fuchs wheels, but that looked like crap.

And yes the OEM Fuchs are PREMIUM priced, no doubt, and therefor will be a rare sight on a Boxster. I was just crazy enough and could not say no...:D
Only thing which really strikes me: The OEM FUCHS seem to be really light weight wheels compared to aftermarket ones...that might be MAYBE another reason to justify that price, or ahem...pay that price...lol.

RandallNeighbour 01-25-2017 08:05 AM

1 Attachment(s)
26 and 29 lbs (front/rear respectively) for the rim weight. Ouch. If I were replacing rims on my Boxster again, it would be for lighter unsprung weight, not more weight on every corner.

I bought aftermarket 18 inch Carrera Lights (Italian production) with the same widths. It makes my car look much newer and much better in my opinion (pictured below), HOWEVER...the car is noticeably sluggish off the line due to the additional weight. I'm betting their weight is similar to what is pictured above. (I'm too scared to weigh them to see just how much heavier they are compared to the factory 17 turbo twist type of wheel the car came with, which I use for the track.)

This is the right direction in which to go with aftermarket wheels:

https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&initialP artNumber=W0183400253B&wheelMake=O.Z.&wheelModel=A lleggerita%20HLT&wheelFinish=Black%20Painted&showR ear=yes&selectedRear=W0183600253B&autoMake=Porsche &autoModel=Boxster+S&autoYear=2001&autoModClar=&vi sLoc=1

Boxtaboy 01-25-2017 08:14 AM

Tirerack does sell wheels for the Boxster that are lighter than stock (e.g. OZ alleggerita), at 17 lbs a wheel or so for 18" wheels. Mine are 3 piece forged but still are like 26 lbs IIRC.

Nine8Six 01-25-2017 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour (Post 524285)
26 and 29 lbs (front/rear respectively) for the rim weight. Ouch. If I were replacing rims on my Boxster again, it would be for lighter unsprung weight, not more weight on every corner.

Could be wrong but I don't think folks necessarily go for the performance bit when looking at buying an affordable but stylish wheel. More of a look/attitude than anything else.

Mind you, I have a set of forged ultralight and they resonate like a crystal vase when I pinched them with my finger nail. Read I CAN'T go on roads that I am not familiar with at the risk of busting/exploding one or more of my wheels. You can also read this as "not fun at all". Many here have experienced it, heard & seen it, not taboo.

Compromises are hard decisions sometimes. Waste of money is some cases :/

BRAN 01-25-2017 08:32 AM

Let's see, my OEM FUCHS are:
Front 8J x 18, ET52 8.20 kg (x2.2) = 18,04 lbs
Rear 10J x 18, ET65 8.80 kg (x2.2) = 19,36 lbs

Is that still "light weight" for 18inch?

m332is 01-25-2017 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 524294)
Could be wrong but I don't think folks necessarily go for the performance bit when looking at buying an affordable but stylish wheel. More of a look/attitude than anything else.

Mind you, I have a set of forged ultralight and they resonate like a crystal vase when I pinched them with my finger nail. Read I CAN'T go on roads that I am not familiar with at the risk of busting/exploding one or more of my wheels. You can also read this as "not fun at all". Many here have experienced it, heard & seen it, not taboo.

Compromises are hard decisions sometimes. Waste of money is some cases :/

I agree with this comment. This is a street car and not headed for a racetrack. I have built, owned, raced 4 BMW racecars (incl a first gen e30 M3 and a e36 M3 LTW) and raced with BMW CR and SCCA CR. On the racecars, I really worried and focused on weight, however on the streetcar, it is less important to me.

BRAN 01-25-2017 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m332is (Post 524304)
I agree with this comment. This is a street car and not headed for a racetrack. I have built, owned, raced 4 BMW racecars (incl a first gen e30 M3 and a e36 M3 LTW) and raced with BMW CR and SCCA CR. On the racecars, I really worried and focused on weight, however on the streetcar, it is less important to me.

yep, agreed -> ANYTHING "light weight" = "nice to have", definitely NOT a "must have" for a street car.

Nine8Six 01-25-2017 10:07 AM

Seen the wheels you are about to received in person last autumn. They are fabulously well made.

Manufacturing techniques and materials/paint/clears they use have improved greatly (read day & night) since a few years (beats oem). Might/might not be heavier and even if they are I don't think you'll see a huge difference for a roadster cruising public roads anyway.

Buy reasonably lightweight tires for them and have fun man

RandallNeighbour 01-25-2017 01:00 PM

The rims the OP is wanting are around the same weight as my 18 inch Carrera lights and in a 2.5 or 2.7, there will be a noticeable off-the-line acceleration decrease.

This thread has renewed my desire to repaint my 17's and put them on my car and sell my aftermarket 18s.

m332is 01-26-2017 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour (Post 524344)
The rims the OP is wanting are around the same weight as my 18 inch Carrera lights and in a 2.5 or 2.7, there will be a noticeable off-the-line acceleration decrease.

This thread has renewed my desire to repaint my 17's and put them on my car and sell my aftermarket 18s.

To go back to my opening post, I have a 986S so I have the larger motor and it has the 18" Turbo twist wheels so I am not expecting much negative effect. Also keep in mind, coming from racecars that put over 422 HP to the rear wheels and weigh under 2500 lbs with me in it... all street cars feel slow :)

My 986 Boxster S is a summer cruiser and I think I am going to like the look of the new wheels.

vince

Nine8Six 01-26-2017 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m332is (Post 524410)
coming from racecars that put over 422 HP to the rear wheels and weigh under 2500 lbs with me in it... all street cars feel slow :)

lolll coming from a modified 145kg Superbike with 210HP, I think I know exactly what you mean. Even the latest Lambo productions doesn't cut it. Bike hurts though...

Roadster-cruising indeed :cheers:

Javi Cooper 02-22-2017 04:29 PM

Any updates? I can't wait to see these wheels mounted on a Boxster :)

m332is 02-23-2017 06:06 AM

The wheels arrived and are sitting in their boxes at the shop. I need to head over and take a look at them at some point. The car is tucked away for the winter and I hope to have the tires mounted on the rims and the rims on the car in a month and a half. I usually pull the car out in April. By then the snow is gone and the salt has washed away.

I'll post pics as soon as its out.

Vince

Jgkram 02-23-2017 06:25 AM

I did exactly the same thing as Randall concerning aftermarket Carrear wheels. They are heavier but look 1000% better than the twist OEM's. And after all it's looks we're going after or why else change the wheels. By the way I like the look of the Fuch's.

BH2000S 03-25-2017 01:07 PM

Put a set of these Starke SC18 wheels with Pilot Super Sports on my 2000 S last night.

http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/...psuozna2sb.jpg

http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/...psmpyp9nws.jpg

m332is 03-25-2017 05:45 PM

Looks great. I'll have mine on in a couple weeks.

Robert986 04-10-2017 10:49 AM

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1491849964.jpg

Here are my Otto Fuchs with Cup-2 rubber, I´m quite happy with it, just need to figure out wether to use black or chrome Wheel nuts..

BRAN 04-10-2017 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert986 (Post 533339)
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1491849964.jpg

Here are my Otto Fuchs with Cup-2 rubber, I´m quite happy with it, just need to figure out wether to use black or chrome Wheel nuts..

congrats :cheers:...black wheel nut covers for sure (they come with the wheels)
We need more pics :D

Robert986 04-10-2017 11:16 AM

On request.. :cheers:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02/xx1491851752.jpg

Robert986 04-10-2017 11:21 AM

And another angle..http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1491852050.jpg

Robert986 04-10-2017 11:25 AM

And BRAN.... Adding the extra unsprung weight of nut covers? Not on my Watch... ;)

BRAN 04-10-2017 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert986 (Post 533348)
And BRAN.... Adding the extra unsprung weight of nut covers? Not on my Watch... ;)

oh I forgot :D

good choice and welcome to the Otto Fuchs team :cheers:

Robert986 04-10-2017 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRAN (Post 533352)
oh I forgot :D

good choice and welcome to the Otto Fuchs team :cheers:

Danke sehr! :cheers:

lkchris 04-10-2017 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxxster (Post 524188)
The only thing I don't like is the center caps they come with look a little chintzy.

They of course are not legally able to photograph their wheels with Porsche crest centers

m332is 04-10-2017 05:16 PM

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1491872846.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1491872875.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads02...1491872897.jpg

Here are my newly mounted Starke Design SC18 with Toyo Proxes T1 Sport tires on my 2001 986 S. The car is lowered on H&R springs.

I like the more aggressive offset of these wheels compared to stock.

As for weight, I feel no difference in acceleration.

I ordered black lug bolts to replace the stock silver lug bolts and I have Porsche center caps I am painting black to match the wheels.

When you look at the back of the Starke Design center caps, it looks like they took a Porsche style center cap and the have their cover over that - if you can find the Porsche crests cheap enough, you can make the Starke center caps look OEM.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:35 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website