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Gorthaur 05-20-2016 08:02 AM

Clutch replacement and IMS bearing inspection/upgrade in or near Italy
 
Hi guys,

unfortunately we don't have a Jake Raby here in Italy, nor a certified installer of retrofits and solutions - as far as I know.

I've read good reports on Hartech but the UK is too far.

I think I'm having the clutch replaced in a few months and I cannot find anybody in northern Italy with experience in IMSB inspection and upgrade.

I own a 2000 986 S with 88.000 km on the clock. It should be equipped with the double row bearing, should it not?

Any suggestions? Is there any good pro in Italy, Austria, Swiss, Germany?

Looking forward to hearing from you!

Thanks and cheers,

G.

Ben006 05-20-2016 08:31 AM

If you drive a little to France you might be able to find someone to do the job!

Gorthaur 05-20-2016 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben006 (Post 496663)
If you drive a little to France you might be able to find someone to do the job!

Thank you; any name, website, FB page?

grc0456 05-20-2016 08:50 AM

Clutch replacement and IMS bearing inspection/upgrade in or near Italy
 
I think 2000MY was when they switched mid-year from double to single row IMSB, so the only way to know is to look.


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Gorthaur 05-20-2016 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by grc0456 (Post 496668)
I think 2000MY was when they switched mid-year from double to single row IMSB, so the only way to know is to look.

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Mine was first registered in Italy in January 2000, so it must have been built in 1999.

Ben006 05-20-2016 08:56 AM

I found: Engine releability
It's in Cagnes sur mer, about an hour, hour and half from the frontier.

You also have: MOS Motorsport
In Nice, which is just next to Cagnes sur mer.

I've heard about Flat 06 already and I would try them first.

There might be others since the riviera is just like South Florida: There are Porsche everywhere!

grc0456 05-20-2016 08:57 AM

If so, you're in luck as I believe the failure rate is quite low on the earlier double row


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Gorthaur 05-20-2016 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by grc0456 (Post 496673)
If so, you're in luck as I believe the failure rate is quite low on the earlier double row


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It seems more or less 1% versus 8%, right? Fingers crossed!

grc0456 05-20-2016 09:04 AM

Yes, but definitely worth an inspection if you are doing the clutch. Should be no "wobble" in it.


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Gorthaur 05-20-2016 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben006 (Post 496672)
I found: Engine releability
It's in Cagnes sur mer, about an hour, hour and half from the frontier.

You also have: MOS Motorsport
In Nice, which is just next to Cagnes sur mer.

I've heard about Flat 06 already and I would try them first.

There might be others since the riviera is just like South Florida: There are Porsche everywhere!

Thanks mate!

EDIT: it seems, tough, that these are not official installers... http://www.flat69.fr, based in Lyon, are... At Flat 06 it's 2700 € for clutch and retrofit, plus petrol etc.... some 3500 €! Geez! My wife would certainly prefer Maldives rather than the South of France!

Smallblock454 05-20-2016 10:02 AM

Hello Gorthaur,

we have some well known and experienced independent Porsche shops over here in the Stuttgart area with guys that have formerly worked at Porsche.

But it think it's not worth to do such a long travel for just changing a clutch and an ISMB. Also it's not rocket science to do that if you have the right tools and some experience in Porsche water cooled cars and if the mechanic does his job meticulous. OK, maybe Jake will say it's rocket science. ;) That's OK. ;)

Regards from Germany,
Markus

Ben006 05-20-2016 10:57 AM

Lyon is almost 4h farther from italy!

Does it really matter that they are not "official installer" ? I'm not, my car still runs ;)

Tcar 05-20-2016 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by grc0456 (Post 496668)
I think 2000MY was when they switched mid-year from double to single row IMSB, so the only way to know is to look.

There was no clear cut-off VIN.

The only way to tell for sure is to drop the tranny and look.

Gorthaur 05-20-2016 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben006 (Post 496692)
Lyon is almost 4h farther from italy!

Does it really matter that they are not "official installer" ? I'm not, my car still runs ;)

No offense intended! I don't know any of them and I agree with our German friend when he says every good pro should be able to replace a d**n bearing!

rick3000 05-20-2016 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcar (Post 496716)
There was no clear cut-off VIN.

The only way to tell for sure is to drop the tranny and look.

The switch happened sometime in 2001, so a MY2000 should have the double row bearing which is suspected to have less than a 1% failure rate. :cheers:

Ben006 05-20-2016 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorthaur (Post 496721)
No offense intended! I don't know any of them and I agree with our German friend when he says every good pro should be able to replace a d**n bearing!

No problem :)
I was just pointing that any garage can do it with the right tools ;)

AaronPDX 05-20-2016 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rick3000 (Post 496722)
The switch happened sometime in 2001, so a MY2000 should have the double row bearing which is suspected to have less than a 1% failure rate. :cheers:



Actually, my 2000 S had a single row.

JFP in PA 05-21-2016 04:24 AM

Both the 2000 and 2001 model years can go either way, you should take the car apart to determine which one is in there as there is no other proven way to tell.


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