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Timco 02-11-2016 08:42 AM

How does this happen?
 
http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/a...psa7eqjemn.jpg

Clamshell does not line up with the small piece behind the door.

JayG 02-11-2016 09:04 AM

Is it the same on the other side?

stelan 02-11-2016 09:21 AM

Boxster have unusual gaps in that area but perhaps not that much

CrisZenithBlue 02-11-2016 10:10 AM

mine is even worse than that.

does anybody know of a way to rectify that?

jdraupp 02-11-2016 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CrisZenithBlue (Post 483503)
mine is even worse than that.

does anybody know of a way to rectify that?

Caulk gun?

boxxster 02-11-2016 10:59 AM

These cars have so much torque the chassis probably twisted

jb92563 02-11-2016 11:04 AM

Replace that part with this:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6...2/s-l1600g.jpg

I think if you look on the underside of that part there are some adjusting bumper stops.

Perhaps they need some tweaking or have fallen off.

DWBOX2000 02-11-2016 11:27 AM

I have basically the same problem though yours looks much better. Mine on the right pulls forward and then swings inward creating a uneven gap front to back. Left looks pretty good which is concerning.

WillH 02-11-2016 11:32 AM

That happened to mine when a top cable broke and the clam shell got twisted. As much as I tried to bend it back, I couldn't get that gap back to standard.

BYprodriver 02-11-2016 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrisZenithBlue (Post 483503)
mine is even worse than that.

does anybody know of a way to rectify that?

Lots of wearing pivot points. Try replacing the 4 bearing sleeves where the actuators attach to the "hinges" part#99992413040

Not expensive or hard to install with top in service position.

nicecar 02-11-2016 12:11 PM

Twisting caused from diy lifting without a lift? I think the rubber stops are adjustable but I dont remember them working for the particular area in question. I will have to check again.

JayG 02-11-2016 12:27 PM

I just looked at mine it looks about the same as yours

stelan 02-11-2016 03:53 PM

I think the large gaps are there because is a design trade off, once bushings get old you rather have gaps than rubbing

Retroman1969 02-11-2016 07:05 PM

Huh. Mine is like that on the passengers side, but flush on the driver's side, on both of my cars.
They still seem to work just fine though!

jakeru 02-11-2016 08:00 PM

Mine is just like that, too - on both sides. It's bugged me a little bit also. I've wondered if something is bent or out of whack, or whether it's supposed to be like that. Sorry I can't help, but you're not the only one.

PaulDash 02-12-2016 03:46 AM

Check the gaps with this data from the Service Manual.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01/gaps1455281014.jpg

Adjust using the mounting screws on the hinges, the rubber posts, and the little plastic spacers (on the body, within the side crevices where the clamshell fits, right behind the little cover pieces).

CoBeerToad 02-12-2016 07:10 AM

Mine is way off too. I imagine the same thing that causes it to be off is what causes me to snap those rods constantly. I'm full manual now, but my lid is still misaligned. Maybe I'll play with it this summer.

coreseller 02-12-2016 05:58 PM

Things Happen when you have a 15 year old car...................Oooof.

particlewave 02-12-2016 10:35 PM

My gaps are even all around.

You guys have broken cars. You should take care of that.

:p

DWBOX2000 02-13-2016 06:39 PM

I started investigating my gap problem today. Besides breaking the plastic piece that connects the push rod to the ball pin, I think the problem might be the bushing and spacer sleeve that connects the push rod to the lever that then goes to the clam shell. There was a lot of play there. I could definitely image the motor pulling the push rod and where there is play, it pulls a bit inward. Wonder what these parts will cost?

particlewave 03-16-2016 02:27 PM

The below pictures show the adjusters for the clamshell. I'm not sure if this will help with the gaps (more for setting height, I think). Didn't mess with mine.

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...0888404B75.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...B231B0F5FF.jpg

jakeru 04-05-2016 10:24 AM

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I investigated the clamshell gap problem, and believe I've fixed it. When I picked up this car about 1.5 year ago, the previous owner stated and provided receipt for some mechanic doing work on the top mechanism (new motor, not sure what the whole story was there). I found the clamshell piece to be somewhat bent and "racked", so it would bind on the hinges a bit.

Undoing this racking was pretty easy after removing the clamshell piece from the car and getting the clamshell out onto the lawn. With clamshell standing up on the lawn one side, use foot and lawn to keep one side of the clamshell fixed, while using hands to torque the other side of the clamshell to change the "racking."

I was also able to bend the clamshell ends wider by using gloved hands and shoulder to press up on one side of the clamshell, while pressing down on the other end with my foot. I was able to fix the gap to perfection by simply bending the clamshell about 1/8" wider. (It took quite a bit of force - about all I could muster! I was originally targeting 3/16" movement, but gave up before reaching that amount.) I used a tape measure to frequently measure the new clamshell width, so I could frequently check progress without having to mount it back on the car. Pic shows clamshell end width before widening. (After widening, this dimension increased from 54-15/16" to 55-1/16")

jakeru 04-05-2016 10:38 AM

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With it installed back on the car now, the gaps now looks perfect. I was originally targeting 3/16" wider, but it was very difficult and I settled on 1/8" wider, and it turned out perfect so I'm glad I quit while I was ahead. :)

Pictured below is the end result (both side look like this now). I'm not sure I have any "before" photo, but I can tell you before I fixed this that the gaps jumped out on both sides as seeming misaligned.

I also wanted to bow the rear edge of the clamshell upwards a bit more to make it better match the rear decklid profile of the fiberglass Aerokit 1 rear decklid, and it seemed I managed to make a noticeable improvement there also. As I bent the clamshell wider, I noticed its front edge would get tend to get pulled a bit downwards/flatter, while the rear would tend to arch up a bit more.

I can't describe why this was necessary - maybe as evidenced by the "racking", the clamshell originally got bent by previous owner somehow? (I can only guess on its previous history, but the 10mm fastening nuts securing clamshell to hinges had definitely been tampered with, so someone was in there before me.)

One more potential explanation is that wear in the clamshell sliders is a factor. (I noticed there was a bit of in-out play in my sliders on both sides - they were also pretty dry before I cleaned and lubed them!) Maybe if the two sliders were "new and tight" without play, they would have kept the clamshell ends spread out a bit more, even when the width of the clamshell wasn't totally perfect. I imagine relying on the sliders to keep the clamshell ends spread apart adequately, however, (e.g., it that's how the car was originally built), could dramatically accelerate wear on the sliders.

Before I got to it, the clamshell hinge mechanism was badly in need of lubrication, and now after lubricating it and fixing the racking of the clamshell piece, the top mechanism seems to be working very smoothly! :) (There seems to no longer be a "popping" noise associated with initial clamshell opening/closing that I remember used to be there, and it seems the top motor is laboring a bit less.)

WillH 04-05-2016 12:39 PM

Good job.
Mine was perfect before the broken cable. Thanks for inspiration to make it so again. I'll try that when my lawn turns as green as yours in a few weeks.


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