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78F350 07-12-2015 03:07 PM

Piaggio Avanti (Aircraft)
 
I know there are quite a few Aviation enthusiasts here.

I got a few pictures of {what I thought at the time was} a Piaggio Avanti today as I got some fuel at KRVS. I have always loved the concept and look of the design since I picked up a sales brochure in 1990. Wish I had time to get more shots/better angles. I have no idea about how they are to fly.
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1436742280.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1436742297.jpg
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78F350 07-12-2015 03:21 PM

..and now I see that I was completely mistaken about what it was! It is actually a Beechcraft Starship.
Even cooler.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...6916730%29.jpg

particlewave 07-12-2015 03:31 PM

When I was 10, my stepdad worked for Bonacci Air out of SkyHarbor (Omaha), IIRC. He took me up in a Starship for a while ;)
That would have been '88.

I remember it feeling much more fluid than the Cessna's that we usually flew, but it may have been psychological. Still, a great memory. :)

SoCalBlackbox 07-12-2015 06:37 PM

less than 10 Starships left flying so this is rare. They were way too expensive to maintain and they were noisy.

steved0x 07-12-2015 06:43 PM

I think I saw one in flight one time, I think I was in a C-152 near RDU, circa 99 maybe. It was cool.

BruceH 07-13-2015 07:11 AM

I have seen a few over the years. Way too radical for conservative executives who typically like to maintain a low profile with the company aircraft. Plus it was too heavy and was not a performer. The Avanti is what Beech should have built in the first place, but, still too radical looking for most. The King Air is still an incredible aircraft today which does not help.

steved0x 07-13-2015 07:22 AM

I used to own a book on Rutan aircraft by Don and Julia Downie:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Complete-Guide-Rutan-Aircraft/dp/0830624201

It has been many years and I can't remember if this had a chapter on the Starship or not. I (seem to recall) that his prototype was a slightly smaller version that performed very well, etc... but then the production version was bigger got loaded up with FAA regulations and got big fat and heavy and the production versions all underperformed.

Still very cool looking :)

clickman 07-13-2015 07:29 AM

And this is related to Boxsters how?

There is an Off Topic section which would likely be a better place for this.

RedTele58 07-13-2015 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by clickman (Post 457167)
And this is related to Boxsters how?

There is an Off Topic section which would likely be a better place for this.

It must be a tireless job being the internet police.

Here's a picture of a Boxster to get us back on track.

clickman 07-13-2015 04:40 PM

Wow, one post and I'm the internet police. Tough crowd.

LRod 07-13-2015 05:01 PM

In 30 years of ATC...
 
…admittedly many of them before the Starship was introduced, I probably only worked a half dozen of them.

LRod
ZJX, ORD, ZAU retired

Pdwight 07-13-2015 07:20 PM

I watched one of these on approach at Charlie Brown airport just outside of Atlanta, found it facinating . Not sure what they call that airport now......oh saw a Porsche that day

78F350 07-13-2015 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by clickman (Post 457167)
And this is related to Boxsters how?

There is an Off Topic section which would likely be a better place for this.

The relationship to Boxsters is a bit abstract, but lots of people get it. Sorry that you are missing out.

Even the guys on Rennlist can relate apparently. Here's a Starship at KRVS from 2010 with better pics:
Posting in the 928 Forum

http://rennlist.com/forums/attachmen...-dsc05992a.jpg

Pdwight 07-13-2015 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 78F350 (Post 457261)
The relationship to Boxsters is a bit abstract, but lots of people get it. Sorry that you are missing out.

Even the guys on Rennlist can relate apparently. Here's a Starship at KRVS from 2010 with better pics:
Posting in the 928 Forum

http://rennlist.com/forums/attachmen...-dsc05992a.jpg

Awesome, I love it

BruceH 07-14-2015 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pdwight (Post 457267)
Awesome, I love it

I agree, great picture!

schnellman 07-14-2015 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickman (Post 457167)
And this is related to Boxsters how?

There is an Off Topic section which would likely be a better place for this.

I couldn't agree more.


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