Cayman GT4, new Spyder or GTS?
 

If you had to pick one, and could not sell it until the warranty expired which would you choose?


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The Cayman GT4 is a keeper, even after the warranty expires which I venture to guess is as soon as you hit the race track.

GT4 ..!
And keep it until YOU are no longer be able to drive it ... :-)
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Cayman GT4 looks nice (except for the picnic bench in the rear) but a 991S engine in a roadster... with a full factory warranty... this is the day we've all been waiting for. I can't wait to see what some aftermarket tuners do with the suspension. That car will stick like gorilla glue while looking evil.

The only thing that would be better would be a 918'esque hybrid engine for some instant power in the twisties.

If only we got the bare bones weight loss of the 987 spyder, with 986 styling, with the 981 spyder engine! Now that'd be a car!

In the meantime, I'd get a 996 gt3 gen 1 ;)

I love the new Boxster Spyder, but picked the Boxster GTS. Now my knowledge of the Spyder is limited, is it an all weather car? Like can you drive it in the rain? If so I'd take the Spyder. Caymans do nothing for me. I want the top down!

All.... the.... time !!!! :cheers:

I own a Boxster for a reason - top down driving baby! Prefer the lines of the 'old school' boxster so chose the GT vs. the Spyder.

( 1. 911 GT3 RS )

1. Boxster Spyder
2. Cayman GT4

I ducked into the NY Auto show for about an hour yesterday. Wait until you see the Spyder in person... I was observing the reactions of the people who stood in front of the turn table that was showing it off. Every other word was an instant "wow" or something similar and everyone under 30 took out their cell phone to take a photo. It made me think of when the Boxster concept car was unveiled in 1993. I listened the reactions to the other Porsches and the visitors all seemed a lot less excited. Which by the way was interesting in that there were three Boxsters/Caymans and only two Carreras. I wonder if this wasn't by accident...certainly not with all these sacrilegious upgrades to the Boxster/Cayman. If the 911 is the flagship sports car you would have thought they would've made a bigger effort to show off more of them or asked for more floor space, especially with nearly 10 variants to pick from.

p.s.
The Z06 convertible is a real head turner too. But for a Cayman GT4/Spyder fan, the new McLaren 570S might be the perfect car... for the price of both.
The daily driver McLaren that weighs less than the new Porsche Spyder with more power the 911 Turbo S.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y6WT_NDtSA

Cayman GT-4.

Its the car that I have been ********************ing at Porsche for years for not building. Now, they finally did it.

But I do wish that they would offer the same engine in a Boxster without all of the GT-racer effects.

What is wrong with the word b-i-t-c-h-i-n-g?

You can't censor me that easily Forum software!

man no love for the Spyder...

Interesting that the GT4 and Boxster GTS are nearly the same weight.


Boxster Spyder curb weight 2,899 lbs
GT4 curb weight 2,955 lbs

Boxster GTS curb weight 2,965 lbs (manual) 3,031 lbs (PDK) (PDK adds 66 pounds)
Cayman GTS curb weight (porsche.com says same weight numbers as Boxster GTS)
Carrera GTS curb weight 3,142 lbs (manual) 3,186 lbs (PDK)

Cayman GT-4
I like their commercial

At the Phila show, only a gt3 (Beautiful and purpose built) and a boxster GTS for sports cars
No-one was looking at the Boxster.
I spoke briefly to a Service guy and a salesman. I mentioned the GT-4 getting close.
Service tech guy wanted to talk about it. The salesman walked away

It's got to be cultural - Push the 911 (the profit) and tease with the mid-engine platform

I'm thinking that sales guy doesn't have any GT4 to sell you. Probably why it wasn't even on the floor at the NY auto show.
The Porsche spokes model girl I spoke to claimed the GT4 was absent because it wasn't yet offered in North America... never mind that there are already deposits on it.
More like a case of pushing what you have plenty of first.

Oh man, that's tough! The track monkey inside says GT4, whereas the top down visceral experience begs otherwise. I'd get the Boxster GTS.

The Porsche sales people that I talk to don't want to talk about ANY of the sports cars because those aren't what sells - they are all about the Cayenne and Panamera! That is where the easy money is if you're a Porsche salesperson.

With the right suspensions mods, a bolt on roll cage (like the TC Kline 987 Spyder) I'd bet 9 in 10 would have more fun at the track in the Spyder. And I'm of the firm opinion that its handling will be very close to the GT4 even without the GT3 suspension parts.

For daily driving the GT4 seems like it would more practical than a convertible with a top that won't allow access when to the trunk when the top is down, and requires fiddling on each side of the car just to lower the top. I guess the GT4 is the better all arounder if you don't live in Southern California.

Why would the GT4 be better? If you want the top down why not the Boxster GTS?

I don't live in Cali, but I want to drop the top, that's why I wouldn't go with a Cayman.

Is the Spyder an all weather car? Like can you drive it in the rain and such?

How far off is the spyder engine...I thought they were the same? I believe the spyder is lighter...is just does not have the front GT 3 suspension. The spyder looks to be one of the finest forms they have made...

One for the open road and one for the track!

The Spyder top mechanism is still a process that requires that you get out of the car, fidle with the left side, fidle with the right, open the rear trunk, pull down the top, close the trunk and get back in the car. Did you forget something in that trunk, oops repeat process because that trunk doesn't open while the top is down.
All of this could have been avoided with a simple Miata style one-handed manual top that could be lowered right from the driver's seat. Not too practical if you live where it rains ever.

Porsche Boxster Spyder GT4? Yes, Please
Porsche Boxster Spyder GT4? Yes, Please

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"Did you forget something in that trunk, oops repeat process because that trunk doesn't open while the top is down."

What do you mean? If the trunk didn't open while the top is down, you'd never be able to put the top back up, ever. The trunk appears to work as normal when the top is down. My bigger fear is that the decklid/trunk is huge, and would hit a garage door opener if it were opened inside.

I used to love the simplicity of the Miata roof, but its just not practical in this case due to the roll bars and windscreen: you'll always have to get out of the car to put the roof down, unless your some kind of 5' 5" gymnast with very strong forearms.

I personally wish they would have done some kind of dual-hinged decklid that also lifted in the front to easily put the top down. But, that would have added weight....

A targa-topped Cayman would be cool, with the same mechanism as the new 911 Targa.

Meaning once the top is down the rear trunk is not accessible without fiddling with the top again.
You have to partially raise the top assembly to allow the rear trunk enough room to clear.

yes, as one piece, the rear deck lid on the Sypder would not work if you want to avoid getting out the car.

I would have brought back the clam shell (incorporating the humps) and worked out a way to lift the clam shell via a manual lever from inside the car that would lift it just enough to allow space so that the manual top could be raised.
The manual top could have been made of very light weight materials on a smooth ball-bearing track. No electronics or motors.

I watched them open the trunk at the show more than once without touching anything other than the trunk release.

If you are referring to the two cosmetic covers that fold down after the top is stowed, they do not interfere with the trunk being lifted. When putting the top back up, you don't need to even move them out of the way....they fold back once you pull the top up.

Still not the perfect solution, but looks to be much better than the 987 Spyder process.

Spyder. The GT4 is something you own only for track days.(doesn't mean that's what will happen though)The Spyder is designed as a road car and that's where 90% of all GT4's will spend 90% of their time anyways. We all like to think we need an ultra stiff track monster as a daily but the truth is that the Spyder is more fun on the road. I'd guess only a few tenths separate the Spyder and gt4 on the track, with the best driver. The manual top shouldn't matter. Miatas have manual tops. I wish the Spyder came with an oprtional pdk since its designed to be a road car.

I'd actually rather fully option a base Boxster as a daily driver. More creature comforts. 265 bhp in a light, nimble car is enough on the road. I know it would slow on a wide open track but the truth is I've never tracked a car. I've optioned my perfect Boxster which comes out to $86,965. About the same as a GT4 or Spyder. And as for the GTS, it's ugly in the front and has smoked taillights. Gross.

PDK and a 991S engine would be too fast for a Spyder. I can see all the YouTube videos now of a PDK Boxster GT4 passing untold numbers of non-GT3/Turbo 991 Carreras at the track with ease. Such a car with GT3 suspension would be a dream track car.

For racing (and not just DE's) all it needs is a bolt-on roll cage. Mazda are racing their new MX5 cup car with one. Porsche could easily do the same with a Boxster GT4 going up against a Cayman GT4 in a sprint series, both armed with PDK (who isn't racing with paddles today anyways?).
If Mazda can manage to get a roll-cage in a cramped Miata, then Porsche could easily do the same in a Boxster GT4.

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Agreed. In a recent issue of Panorama, I read that one of the Porsche guys who worked on the 911 GTS Club Coupe drives around in a base Boxster with the PSE. For a guy that can pretty much drive around in any company car he wants, he chose the sound of the small-bore flat six coming through the Sport Exhaust. (apparently a very rare option on 981 2.7)

One thing about Porsche that is never mentioned in this "Cayman is great for the track" talk.

Unlike Chevy and their new C7/Z06, Porsche will not stand by their warranty if you should suffer an engine failure during a track event. This is true for GT3s despite all the built in track durability. So one has to imagine that they'll equally tell you to pound sound in a GT4/Spyder with only GT3 dep't suspension should there be an engine fire, coolant pipes bursting loose, a wheel flying off on fast corner (absurd scenarios for a Porsche granted :) ) .

I recall an interview with a GT3 engineer who said "the GT3 is like a track car for the street, it is not intended to be driven at the track, despite so many of our customers buying the GT3 only to use at the track". Someone should have reminded him that it's priced like a track car. Actuall a 996 Cup car can be had for less with enough left over to buy a used 997.2 for the drive home.

Exactly. Not only can you afford leather and interior goodies with the saved money, but you can also afford all of the performance upgrades. Sport suspension, sport chrono, pdk, sport exhaust, maybe even ceramics ( I've heard they're good on road and never have to be changed for 200.000 miles)