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Chuck W. 11-09-2014 12:59 PM

Litronics Headlights on CL for $700
 
This seems like a fair price. No affiliation and so on..

Porsche 996 Boxter litronics headlights

http://images.craigslist.org/00C0C_6...Ky_600x450.jpg

Timco 11-09-2014 03:56 PM

When I was backed into they were $3200 per side new.

Chuck W. 11-09-2014 05:38 PM

In 2001 the MSRP sticker price for Xenon Headlights was $1070.

KevinH1990 11-09-2014 06:02 PM

I'm already halfway into a litronic upgrade project. http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/54697-advice-used-litronics.html

I'm going to need to polish mine before they look that good. Someone is going to get a great deal.

Pelican is listing new lights for $1305 (Left) and $1191 (Right) Project 85: Litronic Headlamp Kit Upgrade - Page 1

So if someone charged you $3200 a side that seems quite a bit too high.

Timco 11-09-2014 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinH1990 (Post 424581)
I'm already halfway into a litronic upgrade project. http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/54697-advice-used-litronics.html

I'm going to need to polish mine before they look that good. Someone is going to get a great deal.

Pelican is listing new lights for $1305 (Left) and $1191 (Right) Project 85: Litronic Headlamp Kit Upgrade - Page 1

So if someone charged you $3200 a side that seems quite a bit too high.

That's the price on the insurance invoice. I didn't pay anything. They said they were ordered direct from Porsche.

jpc763 11-10-2014 07:57 AM

Are these "plug and play"? I have standard headlights on my 2001 S and would love to upgrade. What else would I need to buy in order to make these work?

Thanks in advance.

John

Perfectlap 11-10-2014 08:19 AM

Lower price reflects that they are aftermarket. Sounds like a question for our resident litronics development team (if Hella and Porsche units are one and the same).

particlewave 11-10-2014 08:25 AM

It is my understanding that they are the same brand; Hella, Bosch, Magneti Marelli, Automotive Lighting are all the same headlight with same part #'s, mold marks, etc.

Hella makes the bulb sockets and connectors, Automotive Lighting is just the name of the joint project between Bosch and MM. Same...

particlewave 11-10-2014 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpc763 (Post 424615)
Are these "plug and play"? I have standard headlights on my 2001 S and would love to upgrade. What else would I need to buy in order to make these work?

Thanks in advance.

John

No. They require level sensors and controllers. You can run without them, but who knows what position they were left in (one may be pointing at the ground, etc).

jpc763 11-10-2014 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 424618)
No. They require level sensors and controllers. You can run without them, but who knows what position they were left in (one may be pointing at the ground, etc).

So the retro designed by Nine8Six is still the only "plug and play" upgrade for my standard lights?

John

Perfectlap 11-10-2014 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpc763 (Post 424624)
So the retro designed by Nine8Six is still the only "plug and play" upgrade for my standard lights?

John

All factory and aftermarket Litronics are "plug and Play". Particlewave was referring to factory-installed self-leveling Litronics. The wiring in those can't really be re-created as a DIY upgrade.
You lose the self-leveling function if you just slide in the Litronics to upgrade the halongen units.


But I'm pretty sure that these aftermarket lights ChuckW has posted don't have self-leveling and instead use the special tool to manually lower or raise the projector height into a fixed position.
I'm not sure how you would correct the position of the projector in a used factory self-leveling unit if went into a new car. I'm going to guess that you can still use the special tool on those since the housing is probably the same?

particlewave 11-10-2014 10:33 AM

The person that wrote that ad seems to be a little confused. There are no aftermarket headlights for these cars except for the LED style eBay units.

The headlights in the ad are OEM.

Hella is OEM.

There's only 1 "Litronics".

Perfectlap 11-10-2014 10:49 AM

^ I think he's confused the way I was confused. If you walk into the Porsche dealership and pay out the nose you get the Porsche branded OEM units. If you order Litronics online from a non-Porsche website you get these Hella units that don't come in Porsche packaging?

kjc2050 11-10-2014 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpc763 (Post 424624)
So the retro designed by Nine8Six is still the only "plug and play" upgrade for my standard lights?

John

Many owners of cars with standard halogen lights have retrofitted litronics w/o the level sensors and controllers. I know I have, and I've had no issues.

Timco 11-10-2014 02:55 PM

This.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 424635)
^ I think he's confused the way I was confused. If you walk into the Porsche dealership and pay out the nose you get the Porsche branded OEM units. If you order Litronics online from a non-Porsche website you get these Hella units that don't come in Porsche packaging?

Many aftermarket lights specifically state they don't meet DOT guidelines. Says right in the ad or website or on the light.

The Lits I refer to came in a Porsche box and my car has the leveling sensors on the control arms.

Nine8Six 11-10-2014 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timco (Post 424585)
That's the price on the insurance invoice. I didn't pay anything. They said they were ordered direct from Porsche.

Tim - if those were ordered from DE directly then yes, most likely the price you saw on your invoice is correct. Things/tax/etc works a bit differently in Germany. Especially when it comes to car parts :/

You'd think the parts are cheaper when purchased in the automaker's backyard... well sadly, its the opposite. Go figure.....


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