I like "Tee-Ball Generation."

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Jake, I am familiar with crowd sourcing. I have done a few of those deals and in one I became a Associate Producer of a short movie. I received formal movie credit and my name is even listed on IMDb (Thomas Stone - IMDb.) Hey, before you guys start hatin' on this, remember this is LA - everyone's gotta have some movie cred! :)

With that being said, I am not a big fan of the Volvo idea so I'll try to make you a better offer: How about a real summer marketing internship/job?

One of the small businesses that I own designs and manufactures the Robotop (Robo-Top, One-Touch Convertible Top Module for 996 Cabriolets and 986 Boxsters).

I'd like to increase sales of the Robotop and I'll fund up to $750 as a marketing budget. Your role will be to design a marketing campaign using the $750 budget and I'll pay you $25 for every Robotop that is sold between the start and end of the marketing campaign.

Of course, I'll give you a free Robotop so you can understand the product and its value proposition to customers.

You'll have to write a marketing plan clearly saying exactly what I should do to increase sales and why.

External spending has to be within the budget and with that small of a budget you're going to have to be creative. We won't be able to hire any supermodel spokespersons or sponsor a Formula 1 team, but we might be able to do some pay per click advertising, paid Facebook ads, or whatever else you recommend.

Then we'll work together to launch and execute the marketing plan. We'll monitor progress and make any adjustments needed along the way. At the end of the campaign I'd like you to write a short report summarizing what worked, what didn't work, and why.

This is a legit offer. We can work out the details outside the Forum.

PM me if you're interested.

I own the best car in the world at the age of 16 (and paid little more than my sister did for her civic) what do you expect :rolleyes:

Thank you very much for the offer, but i must say, get back to me in 2 years :cheers:

Settle down Beavis.

I'd expect you to know the classics. It was a quote from Star Wars (Return of the Jedi, actually).

Jeez, I'm out of it for a little while... - YouTube

Titanic comes to mind.

How did that Thoreau paper turn out?

I think you dodged a bullet there -- and I'm not talking to BigJake.

Since you posted this link, let me help-- BTW, I'd give it a "C-" and I've only read through this once:

"Hello, my name is BigJake111. I am a young auto enthusiast. [Ok, combine these 2 sentences with an "and" -- what are you, a robot?] My first car was a Porsche boxster [Capitalize much? "Boxster"], [";" you've got 2 independent clauses here] however, it was totaled in the highschool ["high school" is 2 words] parking lot by an individual that failed to yield to right of way. It was found at his fault [Ok, this doesn't make sense -- what does "It" refer to? The accident? You don't mention an accident. Also, if you are going to use "individual" like you did in the sentence before, you should use "their" not "his" here. Of course, making that change still doesn't grant this clause meaning] (after many battles due to lack of a full police report and being on private property [What are you going for here? Is it important that you didn't get a full police report? Or that you were on private property? If you are trying to engender some sort of mutual consent toward your cause, you need to be a little more specific rather than rely on your audience to understand what you mean.] and the insurance money will easily allow me to buy another Porsche [Well, this is just stupid to say. I mean, people with a brain would just say, "Well, if you could easily buy another, why not buy the beater too? It sounds like you will have the money." You see? You come off cocky here, and there is no reason to be.] However, due to obvious reasons [What's so obvious here? Is it because you are incapable of getting a full police report? I don't understand what you are implying as obvious? You don't state the personal relationship you had with the male individual, so why is it obvious?] i [Really?]need a beater to drive to school while saving the Porsche for weekends. Fast forward to earlier this week [*sigh* "Fast forward"? Really? You are fast-forwarding to a past event? "Rewind" You'd know this if you ever held a cassette.] when looking on a local car lot, I saw a masterfully-stylish Volvo 740. Due to the unique style of the car, I honestly believe I could enjoy it near as much as my Porsche ["my"? Do you own it yet? If not, than it can't be "my" -- Make up your mind. If you are trying to sell a story, then the parts have to add up. Here, you imply that you already have the replacement when you infer above, that the settlement will easily cover the replacement. Stories that don't make sense won't sell]. These Volvos are cheap, practical, SAFE, and honestly, I get the vibe of a 4 wheeled Vespa [Ok, this sounds incomplete. What I think you are saying is that you get the vibe of the Vespa when driving it (not that you said you've test driven it, but you are imaging what it'd be like, right?]. I enjoy life [life? sounds like weekends] in the Porsche, but I want to enjoy highschool [sic] in the Volvo. Rather than asking you to help me fund a sports car, I am asking your help to buy a beater. There is a certain irony to this car that i [sic] feel connects to my suppressed artistic side [So, are you implying that artists don't choose Porsches? I mean, where do we hear anything about you being suppressed? How is "artistic" also akin to "cheap", "practical" and "safe"? This characterization doesn't make sense to me.], wouldn't it add to the art if it was crowd funded. [Hmm... I don't know, maybe if you ended this with a "?" I could answer...] The car will be kept original [Not if you have people scribble on it. Also, who is going to care that you want to keep it original? Who is your audience? Are you speaking to someone or people specifically? What is your target here? Come on Marketer! Step up and show us.]. DO NOT feel sorry for me, i [sic] could work and buy a beater on my own, but, I want to make a project and experiment [Project and an experiment? What's the difference here?] out of this, I want to give YOU a chance to be involved. Any dollar donated helps. [This is a weak "Call to Action" -- look it up.]

Edit: And also BigJake, this is speaking to a point -- one day you are going to have to stop thinking about what you want to do when you grow up and do it. I don't know if this was a real offer, but man, if it was, you missed a chance.

I am sure that took alot of time but thanks haha, it is honestly appreciated and I did make many changes that I see fit haha. With the offer I try not do anything that I am not prepared to be very well at. I like to get my documentation and facts together well ahead of moving forward on something. So if I am to take an offer, I would rather wait a little while longer until I can do it right.

I can hear cfos gritting his teeth over this paragraph already. :)

BJ, why not just buy the Volvo with the money you received from the P-car insurance, get a summer job and start saving up the rest of the money for that Boxster S you probably have your eyes on?

It would bust the budget and leave no money for a boxster repair fund, but I do have the money to get both now if i was to haggle a bit on both cars. However, the reason I do not want to just buy the car is then its just a junky volvo, if its crowd funded there is a whole story behind the car and all, adds a whole new layer to the experience.

3 pages in 9 hours?!?

That's the most activity I've seen on this forum in a week!
Good work, Jake ;)

Crowdfunding is voluntary, so people will donate if they want. What's he hurting? Seems there are some bitter geezers around :p :D :p
(I say as I shake my cane at you)

Very nice offer. Way to go.

I say go for it... if people are dumb enough to donate to this... they deserve to lose that dollar that they donate.

Best idea I've read yet.

Just sayin'..........

TO

I thought this was a Boxster enthusiast forum?
I think this reality TV thread surpasses 'What oil should I use'
Maybe include a free bottle of your toilet water with each donation

Hears a novel idea - TAKE the BUS to School

Oh Dear - I got sucked in - Who do I make the check to

C'mon particlewave, that's a bit too generous. There's nothing avant garde about sophisticated begging. It's been around for ages. Eventually these people go on to become politicians, well except that they occasionally show up to an actual job site.

When I saw this guys campaign and that he has actually gotten a few hundred dollars...... I realized I could probably pull this off.

Pay my Beer and Video Games by Jonathan Paquet - GoFundMe

I was thinking the same except rather than buying the old Porsche (liability), instead invest the cash in a very vanilla Vanguard index fund (asset). Then contribute half of his pay from the part time job to the fund every month. When he's smarter about financial security, he can diversify that portfolio more broadly. That's probably what many 16 year-olds and future billionaires are doing this summer.

Jake be smart.

It is not all about the money haha. As long as I own a Porsche of some sort, and support the family well later on, I have all I need. So why would I give up owning one at the age when I can enjoy it the most for the next 20 years until I can truly enjoy it again.

Here's my experience when it comes to observing what people do when they come into some cash for the first time. It is uncanny how true this has been. Basically you have group A. They spend it. These people never really get ahead. Some may seem rich, nice house, nice cars but they're heavily in debt. And some actually look the part of being broke (no hat no cattle). Neither ever really get to the point where their money is working for them. Jake, this means their investments are paying their bills, and not the income from their jobs. Group A have virtually no savings, no emergency cash fund. Some pay off their debts but when money comes around again the first thing they do is to spend it. They don't learn from their mistakes. So they continue living pay check to pay check and are in and out of debt. The U.S. savings rate is about 2% (that's shockingly bad Jake) so there are plenty of people in this group. In other countries like Switzerland, where people are better educated and smarter about their money, the savings rate is nearly 20%.

Then there are the people who are in group B. These people are rare. They'll come into some cash for the first time and they won't spend the money. Instead they'll open up an account of some sort. Brokerage, college savings (529), maybe they'll buy a bond, or they'll simply save it in cash towards a down payment on a first home purchase. They may buy something small, like a TV or computer but nothing major, the rest they save/invest. They don't use the cash to pay off debt because they didn't get into debt in the first place. These people realize that a lot of money must start off as a little pile of money. They continue these habits of investing/saving when tax returns come in, they maybe get a bonus payment at work, etc. If they need to buy something, they can pay for it in cash because they have it. Oh and they were not driving Porsches in high school.

Jake, are you familiar with the famous marshmallow study?

somewhate related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UPokvDqyXg&feature=youtu.be

As a marketing initiative, this is exceedingly weak. I'd be shocked if you receive any donations. Let me explain:

• What exactly are you "marketing?"
• As far as I can figure out, you are giving people the opportunity to aid you in getting a car, and in return for doing so, they get their name added to the car's dash
• BUT: you don't mention this ANYWHERE...
• It's only until someone clicks on the "Donate" button that they learn this
• And THEN, you don't bother to show or tell how contributors' names will be displayed...
• Will they be inscribed on a plate? Written with a Sharpie?? Scribbled with a Crayola? I have no idea, because you never say

This is a pathetic job of marketing, plus I'm sure you'll turn off many potential contributors by telling about your poor ruined Boxster. Not many people are going to give money to a high school student who had a Porsche. Additionally, the story about the "altercation" and police report is just plain confusing. Who cares? To the average person logging onto the gofundme page, you're just a spoiled kid with a confused story and a half-assed pitch for donations.

Good luck.

I have had many people say this but i feel explaining the previous car and mentioning that it is replaced is necessary for the sake of honesty. I am already having people essentially buy me a car, I want to mention why i want it and such. If i just said oh wah wah i had a nice car it was wrecked i could never replace it, i found this cheap car but i like it, then yeah some people would feel sorry for me, but that is not what i want. I simply want a bit of an art project, a car with a neat story at the end and such. I could just say i like these volvos, help me buy one and get your name on and things would go better, but that isnt quite right with my conscious.

Jake,

I'm VP Marketing for a global company. 35+ years B2B and B2C experience. Ad copy, product literature, even gofundme pitches need to be well written and compelling. Yours doesn't quite measure up. If you were to rewrite it, what changes would you make?

Here's another question for you to ponder: why do you think the guy asking for money for beer and video games has received donations?

Jake, let me start off that I like you and think you are a pretty smart kid, in some ways wise beyond your years, in other ways extremely cocky. Being 16, that is not surprising being a bit cocky. That being said, this "idea" of yours is basically panhandling/begging.

You have a good head on your shoulders, use it for something productive that you can be proud of.

You are very very lucky to have a Porsche at your age. My first car was a 1966 Dodge Dart, smallest straight 6 they made, no power steering/brakes/windows and no AC. The only option it had was a AM radio. It was a hand-me-down from my Dad when he bought a new car for commuting to work. To me at 16, I loved it and I was lucky to have a car of my own as most of my friends did not have a car. I started working at 14 and saved enough to buy a new Toyota Corolla my 2nd year in college.

My older boy who is not 20 saved up $1200 umpiring Little League games and when he got his license he bought a 93 BMW 318i. He worked hard and saved his money so he could have a car when he got his license. He did not ask others to give him what is basically a luxury for as kid, a car of his own

Your Boxster was totaled due to no fault of your own and you have now been made whole with the insurance settlement. Buy yourself another Boxster and be happy with it. Yes, it is a good idea to get a beater to drive to school. I am sure you can find something for less than the Volvo that runs and is safe. You said you will have extra $$ from the insurance you want to put aside for maintenance. use some of it for a beater and be happy.

Maybe you should have done the salvage things on your old car and what you would have profited would have paid for the beater, who knows.

What you posted does come off as a spoiled kid with a Porsche looking for a handout. I am sure there are many people who would just love to own a Porsche.

Get a job, that is what most of us do when we need money, and use that $$ for what ever you want. Better yet, save a bunch of it and you will be better off in the long run

anyone that just gives you money because of some halfassed website is a fool and brings you down to that level

Jake, I hear you. I know you think you're idea is great. I know some great things came out of "out of the box" thinking. If you truly believe in your idea, I say go for it!

But for Pete's sake, listen to some good advice coming from smart and experienced people here. The advice about a compelling story? Absolutely true. Many good ideas died because of poor selling. And you are selling (or 'marketing' as you would like to put it) because you want people to buy into your Volvo experiment and give money.

So, if you still want to go for this experiment, then go. Just try to do it as well as you can. Execution is critical. Who knows, if this becomes successful, this could be your ticket to a high paying marketing job?

I do feel that my ad was rushed and can be improved on. As with the beer and video games goes, it is likely people quite similar to the guy asking for this money giving it to him. People see how stupid the ad is, and are sending him money, I also am starting to strongly regret the site that I have used for this. I feel that it is very hard to not come off as spoiled when owning a Porsche, i tried to execute the ad in a way that showed how much I respect and like the Volvo and see it as a bargain for something unique and stylish. I think I to an extent have out done myself with owning a Porsche, it is pure joy to own one and maybe cabin fever is getting to me. When I drove past that Volvo on the lot i thought to myself that if I was not blessed enough to be able to afford the Porsche i would likely be in something like that and i would love it just as much. Maybe it is the inevitability that we will always want what we do not have, however, it is a strange flip-side that i see something extravagant in this simple affordable car. It is more so my creative side that wants this than my business side. My business side was more at home when preparing documentation to fight insurance on, liability, proving the car as totaled, and then the value of replacing it. Through this i went from insurance sending me a 5k check and 20% liability to now 0% and a 13k check. I will wait until this weekend when I get my new Boxster, and rethink from their, at that point I will very likely withdraw the current ad, and create a new one on another site. For the time being I have already spread the current ad and will see how it does until Friday.

The website the ad is currently on is much more locally based. I am also losing interest in the Volvo upon seeking a Volvo forum. Basically i was told the cars are terribly over priced, as expensive as our Porsche is to maintain and I would be better off to buy a camera for the Porsche.

I really like the idea; however, I feel that it would be much easier to go trough this if I felt more strongly about it at this point. I think the time is not right, I will be on the lookout for a cheap Boxster to flip or roller to part out, this is something I have considered multiple times in the past and something I would be much more interested in for funding this project.

2000 Porsche Boxster auto

CELs are never that bad on these cars right? 02 sensor or something right? Could buy the car for 7.3k or so, fix the issue, sell it for around 9 here on the forum?

Just buy the yellow one, fix it and keep it. That color will be sure not to bring any unwanted attention in the parking lot. Plus it may bring Johnny Danger out of hibernation.

Forget it!
 

Jake, don't you have any self-respect? This idea is blatant begging, just like any panhandler! Get a job. 16 year-olds don't need 1 car, much less 2, and no one else should buy it for you. You should be embarrassed to even think of asking. I'm surprised that you'd even post this idea!

Whew, there, I feel better now ;)!

I actually really don't like the color, a bit much for me.

As I said I could have bought the car but wanted to add a bit or a story to, if I bought a Volvo I bought a beater, if I crowd funded the Volvo I have a rolling story and art peace.

Piece. The word is piece.

You do not seem to be getting much sympathy
 

and that is about what I expected and I can't blame them. Nobody likes a beggar especially when there is really no real need (regardless of how you would like to spin it). I know it seems to not be appealing or logical but you will appreciate things 10x more when you have to work for them...get a job.

If you wanted a realistic chance of people donating to your cause, I would have left the make/model of the vehicle you were replacing ambiguous. As soon as you let people know it was a porsche you were shooting yourself in the foot.

How about having some dignity and stopping at this point. :) I mean really..

The more you drag on and make excuses for your begging, the more you solidify yourself on this forum as a brat with a porsche that was never earned in any way.
It's not art, community or a social experiment. It's pathetic.

:ah:

Not to pile on
 

But really Jake......

What you are doing is feeding into the "out of touch", "elitest", "entitled", stereotype of a Porsche owner.

I understand that you are pitching it as an art experiment, but whatever your intentions are, perceptions are reality, and the perception is you are being spoiled. It doesn't matter that you are buying the Porsche yourself. What is going to bother, or offend, others is that you are somehow so entitled to own a Porsche at 16, yet too good to drive it to school, so others should purchase a more appropriate vehicle for you. Additionally, when your "request" for funds is so littered with spelling, continuity, structural, and grammatical errors, it really comes off as "I'm too good to even be bothered by you, but fund me".

Finally, when you say that you have a really nice car (a Porsche), but want a beater to drive to school at the age of 16, you are going to anger the vast majority of people who either a) drove a beater at 16, or b) dreamt of owning a beater or any car at 16.

Sorry to keep beating you over the head on this, but it will be one of those things you look back on in a few years and really wonder what you were thinking.

Since my parents gave me a Porsche and cover insurance, if the public would just chip in and give me a DD to keep the miles down and keep the Porsche safe, life would be grand......after all, that's still less than what my parents spent on my sister!

Sound about right?

Jake...

It's OK that your folks can afford to give you a 986 as your first car. I wish my dad was in that position. Just stop using the term "I own" when "you were given". Show a little respect. Most of us bought our own cars. It is very cool that you chose a 986. Just leave it at that.

It's OK that you come here to ask for help or brag about your car. That's what this site is for....

It's not OK to ask the public (me and everyone else on here) to fund a DD, no matter how creatively you do it. What about single parents with 2 kids and no vehicle? People who need to get to WORK, not school? If you do not pay your own insurance or registration or car payment, how can you justify a second free car from Joe Public? (someday, I promise you will understand this...) If your parents can afford to give you that car and cover insurance, obviously they can afford to pay for my clutch, right? Please ask them and get back to me.

It's not OK to ask for opinions, then brush them off when 99% of them are saying the same thing. Learn to take the advise you are given, even if the entire board does not support this notion of begging for a DD or the oil type you want to use.

Please, re-read your posts and aim for better grammar / English. You will come off as more intelligent, and won't look as young as you are while bragging about how well you do in your English classes.

Jake

You are pretty well liked on theis forum and IMHO most respect you, especially considering your very young age. We like ya kid, but you are rapidly losing points all around. Look back on the response from when your car got trashed. Very different from this subject

Timco is spot on with his comments, others as well

we were all kids once too. So don't be too hard on Big Jake.

But this a generational thing for sure. I've been having some issues with some millenialls who report to me. I was taken by surprise at how drastically their attitudes on well just about anything involving work and money have changed vs. guys who are about 8-12 years older. I seem to view it this way now: My father is pre war (WWII). My mother is a boomer. The less you had growing up of as far as the basics, the harder it is for you to take what you did not earn and easier you are to please. A small house will do. One TV in the house is not just good enough but a real privilege. A car in the driveway is amazing, no matter the year or model. One vacation every 5 years is something to look forward to. Spending money really is a last resort thing. Having access to any kind of food in the supermarket is winning the birth lottery (unlike a billion living in India).

Then you have the boomers. They grew up with prosperity and an expectation that their lives would get better. All they had to do is work. <--major game change in America. They wanted a somewhat bigger house (still modest), a color TV, a newer car (but still one car). Summer vacations were expected. Interest rates were high so consumption was still capped.

After that it all goes down hill. The better the economy you grew up in, the more you had in the house. Multiple cars, houses with larger foot prints, multiple bathrooms, flat screen TV in multiple rooms, a vacation home or regular out of state trips, toys (atvs, boats, etc.) and waist lines bulged to the point where not just one person in the home is 20 lbs or more overweight but many family are this way. Those millenials who grew up during the economic boom of back to back bull markets (80's and 90's) were all of the above but on steroids. And now we have the the kids that grew up in the 2000's. Their parents (Gen X'ers) gorged on low interest cheap credit and filled the house with all manner of things their incomes could not sustain in the long term. Pizza for Junior's dinner again? "Oh what the hell I'm tired." So now their kids are consumption focused. Very little as far as saving/investing, belt-tightening was imparted on them.
We've gone full circle from the pre-war kids to the Barney generation.