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Carlisabadman986 06-03-2014 05:13 PM

hahaha good luck with that, had the same problem with the neighborhood stray before I moved. He slept there on and off for a year. Never damaged or scratched the roof only left some hair. He did leave lots of dirty foot prints but definitely never left any scratches.

http://i.imgur.com/a13si.jpg
^^^^ Not my cat!!!

Ebell914 06-03-2014 07:01 PM

Very cute!

JayG 06-03-2014 07:15 PM

Good kitty, protecting the Boxster from all the wild game roaming around the urban neighborhood

Ebell914 06-03-2014 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JayG (Post 403839)
Good kitty, protecting the Boxster from all the wild game roaming around the urban neighborhood

That's funny!

But I gotta say, I am the only one in my neighborhood that has never found snakes in my garage...my two trusty cats get rid of all the snake food...

BrokenLinkage 06-03-2014 07:18 PM

Ok I don' t care to dive into the emotional end of this thread, but just consider
the effect of a cat "kneading " its claws into your top (leaving nicely invisible holes in the liner, covered by an intact and unharmed canvas). Now consider that cat making a trial rake of its claws across the surface as it tests the canvas for suitability as a scratching surface (leaving very visible and permanent damage to the canvas fibers).

And as a matter of fact, I lost my 1st cover to a cat, which judging by the muddy paw marks leapt onto the trunk and then to the unsupported cover placed over the open cockpit to keep it free of tree sap. The collapse of the cover must have startled the animal into engaging its all-wheel positraction top-shredding drive, for the middle of the cover was flayed beyond salvation. I hated it, mainly b/c it was the oem version 1 cover, which is no longer made but was lighter and fit better and stored more compactly.

But for the record, I make every effort to keep my kids and pets off of the neighbors' property, less they cause offence or damage, or are suspect of causing such. I expect the same courtesy from my neighbors.

jdlmodelt 06-03-2014 08:03 PM

Our cats sneak into the garage when the door is open and we are driving a car in and then the next day...cat paw prints all over my Porsche. argh...I'm real annoyed when I catch them slinking into the garage a sly and slick like they think I didn't see them. I can usually honk the horn and they go scrambling.

4runnin 06-03-2014 09:17 PM

My cat loves sleeping on my car, for the heat, or the view, i don't know. Doest matter if its in the garage or outside it. I don't sweat the paint, over the years we have had cats sleeping all over the cars. There may be a scratch from them sliding off but a quick wax always fills them in…But the one thing i do worry about is them punching through the soft top. So I put a towel over the soft top and then a car cover over that. Now for my obligatory car pics.

To solve your problem maybe put one of these mats on your roof, my friend did this to protect his new leather couches and then he didn't need to even turn them on after the first few times.

Amazon.com : PetSafe 60-By-12-Inch ScatMat Electronic Pet Training Mat, Sofa, SKM-C471 : Pet Deterrent Mats : Pet Supplies

http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/...ps76ef63f3.jpg

http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8e6955ae.jpg

http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/...pse8009c68.jpg

Here's him on top of the boxster roof digging in, but he can't get through the towel/cover layers
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mump 06-04-2014 05:03 AM

I would try to notify the owner of the issue and then hope he resolves it.

... if that doesn't work a little bit of antifreeze in some tuna should take care of the problem.

Beer 06-04-2014 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JayG (Post 403760)
Must have affected your brain

I hear they make a good meatloaf.

JayG 06-04-2014 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Beer (Post 403922)
I hear they make a good meatloaf.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mump (Post 403909)
I would try to notify the owner of the issue and then hope he resolves it.

... if that doesn't work a little bit of antifreeze in some tuna should take care of the problem.

Come on guys, there is nothing funny about poisoning or cooking a cat

Perfectlap 06-04-2014 07:44 AM

This

Amazon.com : Contech StayAway Motion-Activated Pet Deterrent : Pet Deterrent Sprays : Pet Supplies

with a little bit of this sprayed on the ground near the car

Amazon.com : Cat & Kitten Repellent : Pet Deterrent Sprays : Pet Supplies

I can't belive this is still a problem. We have technology now.

RedTele58 06-04-2014 07:47 AM

Why do (most) cat owners think it's OK to let their cats roam the neighborhood, crap in my flowerbeds, fight, howl and screw under my window at night, and sleep on my car? I don't let my German Shepherds roam the neighborhood.

I have 2 simple solutions for cats that come in to my yard.
1) If they are naive enough to get in my 6' privacy fenced backyard, my German Shepherds use them as a chew toy. Sorry Kitty. Stay home. Problem solved.
2) If I start having a problem with a cat (after I give it a chance or two by chasing it away), I place a live trap next to my house. When I catch a cat, as I do a few times a year, I simply load the cat and the trap into my truck and bring it to the animal control facility. To get the cat back, the owner has to show proof of vaccinations (or pay to get it vaccinated there), show the cat is registered with the city (or pay to get it registered before it can leave), and they have to pay a fine for having an animal running at large. IE - they have to be responsible for their animal.

Funny thing is, I've never seen a cat again after I bring it to the pound.

My dogs are vaccinated, registered with the city and contained on their property. IE - I follow the rules for responsible pet ownership. If by chance one of them would ever get loose and end up at the pound, I'll pay the fine, bring her home and fix the problem so she doesn't get loose again.

If a cat owner can't be responsible for their cat, it's their problem when it goes missing. Not mine. A cat that is allowed to roam faces injury by getting in a fight by another animal, hit by a car, or catching a disease from an unvaccinated animal. That doesn't sound like responsible pet ownership to me. Sorry.

JayG 06-04-2014 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 403950)
This

Amazon.com : Contech StayAway Motion-Activated Pet Deterrent : Pet Deterrent Sprays : Pet Supplies

with a little bit of this sprayed on the ground near the car

Amazon.com : Cat & Kitten Repellent : Pet Deterrent Sprays : Pet Supplies

I can't belive this is still a problem. We have technology now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedTele58 (Post 403952)
Why do (most) cat owners think it's OK to let their cats roam the neighborhood, crap in my flowerbeds, fight, howl and screw under my window at night, and sleep on my car? I don't let my German Shepherds roam the neighborhood.

I have 2 simple solutions for cats that come in to my yard.
1) If they are naive enough to get in my 6' privacy fenced backyard, my German Shepherds use them as a chew toy. Sorry Kitty. Stay home. Problem solved.
2) If I start having a problem with a cat (after I give it a chance or two by chasing it away), I place a live trap next to my house. When I catch a cat, as I do a few times a year, I simply load the cat and the trap into my truck and bring it to the animal control facility. To get the cat back, the owner has to show proof of vaccinations (or pay to get it vaccinated there), show the cat is registered with the city (or pay to get it registered before it can leave), and they have to pay a fine for having an animal running at large. IE - they have to be responsible for their animal.

Funny thing is, I've never seen a cat again after I bring it to the pound.

My dogs are vaccinated, registered with the city and contained on their property. IE - I follow the rules for responsible pet ownership. If by chance one of them would ever get loose and end up at the pound, I'll pay the fine, bring her home and fix the problem so she doesn't get loose again.

If a cat owner can't be responsible for their cat, it's their problem when it goes missing. Not mine. A cat that is allowed to roam faces injury by getting in a fight by another animal, hit by a car, or catching a disease from an unvaccinated animal. That doesn't sound like responsible pet ownership to me. Sorry.

Both good solutions.

Not big on the dog eating the cat, but most cats will steer clear of a yard that smells of dog.

I have dogs and cats and they get along great, even sleeping together, but the cats are very wary of a dog that is not theirs

Perfectlap 06-04-2014 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RedTele58 (Post 403952)
If I start having a problem with a cat (after I give it a chance or two by chasing it away), I place a live trap next to my house. When I catch a cat, as I do a few times a year, I simply load the cat and the trap into my truck and bring it to the animal control facility. To get the cat back, the owner has to show proof of vaccinations (or pay to get it vaccinated there), show the cat is registered with the city (or pay to get it registered before it can leave), and they have to pay a fine for having an animal running at large. IE - they have to be responsible for their animal.

Funny thing is, I've never seen a cat again after I bring it to the pound.


well you could give the owner a warning before you hand it over to the executioner since you placed the trap outside your yard. Whether the cat is registered, neutered, vaccinated, etc. or not, at the end of the day it's a cat not a bird, or a dog or a chipmunk... going out looking for prey (what you call 'roaming') is what is programmed into its DNA. It's not programmed to stop chasing prey when the scent leads up to your property line. Dogs on the other hand can be trained to do such things but it's apples and oranges, one can't expect all animals to act the same out in nature. That's man fighting nature itself. Or at least demanding that nature abide by man-made rules. You live in suburb not a compound. I just have a hard time putting racoons, which are a threat public health and cats in the same cateogry requiring traps and putting them down.

But I agree with your other points though. Irresponsible cat owners create lots of problems for others cat owners.

JayG 06-04-2014 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 403958)
well you could give the owner a warning before you hand it over to the executioner since you placed the trap outside your yard. Whether the cat is registered, neutered, vaccinated, etc. or not, at the end of the day it's a cat not a bird, or a dog or a chipmunk... going out looking for prey (what you call 'roaming') is what is programmed into its DNA. It's not programmed to stop chasing prey when the scent leads up to your property line. Dogs on the other hand can be trained to do such things but it's apples and oranges, one can't expect all animals to act the same out in nature. That's man fighting nature itself. Or at least demanding that nature abide by man-made rules. You live in suburb not a compound. I just have a hard time putting racoons, which are a threat public health and cats in the same cateogry requiring traps and putting them down.

But I agree with your other points though. Irresponsible cat owners create lots of problems for others cat owners.

+1 you are spot on
and people don't realize the added benifit in the reduction of rodents

RedTele58 06-04-2014 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 403958)
well you could give the owner a warning before you hand it over to the executioner since you placed the trap outside your yard. Whether the cat is registered, neutered, vaccinated, etc. or not, at the end of the day it's a cat not a bird, or a dog or a chipmunk... going out looking for prey (what you call 'roaming') is what is programmed into its DNA. It's not programmed to stop chasing prey when the scent leads up to your property line. Dogs on the other hand can be trained to do such things but it's apples and oranges, one can't expect all animals to act the same out in nature. That's man fighting nature itself. Or at least demanding that nature abide by man-made rules. You live in suburb not a compound. I just have a hard time putting racoons, which are a threat public health and cats in the same cateogry requiring people to go Charles Bronson on them.

But I agree with your other points though. Irresponsible cat owners create lots of problems for others cat owners.

I should add that I know my neighbors cats, and I'd never "abduct" one of the cats I'm familiar with - I don't need to/want to hassle my neighbors. We all get along well and I wouldn't want to spoil that. The ones that end up in the trap are cats that aren't from the surrounding homes and they do get the chance to get chased away a few times before I bring out the trap.

I'm actually a pretty easy going guy when it comes to them running loose, and I'm not a cat-hater. There just comes a time when a problem needs fixed.

Rick

tannerman007 06-04-2014 10:01 AM

Wow, iv really let the cat out of the bag with this thread, did not realize that it was such a problem, having read all your posts there are cat lovers and haters on here. Me im in the middle, in the Uk my home is my castle therefore I can defend my home with reasonable force against an intruder (law). That said Uk law is very grey on the cat issue. It is a domestic pet not a wild animal therefore I can charge the owner for damaging my property right ? well no, one has ever taken this to court as far as im aware, most cat owners say they are wild animals, if thats the case then I should be able to treat them as such and deal with as a pest. it goes both ways but if I catch the little FKR it will get a quick bath, not going to hurt it but deffo going to scare the little thing in not coming back.
Spray deterrents are ok but it rains so much in the Uk they only last a few days ! Sonic one rely on cat no being deaf and this cat must be 100! so is probably tone deaf!

Porsche Chick 06-04-2014 10:13 AM

Some people on this thread need to calm down . . . What the? :confused:

I've used this motion-activated sprinkler against marauding dogs, it works well.

Amazon.com : Contech CRO101 Scarecrow Motion Activated Sprinkler : Lawn And Garden Sprinklers : Patio, Lawn & Garden

Couple of times should do the trick.

And, YES, a cat can fall right through a canvas top, if it's brittle and old. Happened to hubby's 911 . . .

CoBeerToad 06-04-2014 10:41 AM

I like squirrels

mump 06-04-2014 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JayG (Post 403944)
Come on guys, there is nothing funny about poisoning or cooking a cat

I never said anything about poisoning a cat. I just said to put antifreeze-laced tuna out... Cats make their own decisions, where they lay, what they eat, where they walk.

JayG 06-04-2014 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mump (Post 403998)
I never said anything about poisoning a cat. I just said to put antifreeze-laced tuna out... Cats make their own decisions, where they lay, what they eat, where they walk.

well then, in case you don't know, anti-freeze is poison

Pdwight 06-04-2014 11:03 AM

antifreeze
 
antifreeze poisoning is a horrible death, don't do this. It will kill any mammal including humans, birds you name it.

steved0x 06-04-2014 11:59 AM

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1401911746.jpg

How about a big dog :) He loves to ride. Here I was working on the car and as soon as I opened the door he jumped in. I think I was doing the headlamp switch here.

He also liked to ride in my son's old Miata...

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1401912114.jpg

BirdDog 06-04-2014 12:22 PM

Ok, since everyone else is weighing in on this:

My top 8 recommendations (in the order I'd do them) would be:

1. Talk to the owner if you can locate him/her. Explain (calmly) that you don't want to kill the cat, but if it continues to sit on your car you may be forced to do so. :)

2. Get a car cover. Let's face it, you probably want one anyway, and this is the perfect excuse (for your significant other) to get a cover because covers are a LOT cheaper than a new top. Make sure it's a light colored one - it will stay cooler and the cat won't be as tempted to lay on it. A bonus is that it will protect the car from bird droppings as well...

3. Spray the cat with a garden hose. Make an exaggerated run for the hose any time you see the cat near your car. This way opening the door to your house should be enough to scare it off. After 2-3 times the cat will probably find another place to sit.

4. There have to be things you can buy (Rhino piss, something like that) that cats can't stand that you can spray around your car (not necessarily on it) to keep the cat away.

5. Make friends with the cat. Then advertise it for adoption on Craigslist. (hee hee)

6. Trap the cat, drive 50 miles away and release it (or bring it to an animal shelter). My preference would be to let it loose - shelters are overcrowded and after a certain length of time they often are forced to kill the animals.

7. Get a weak spring driven BB gun. You want something that won't hurt the cat if you accidently hit it. Then aim high (so as not to hit the cat or your Boxster) and when you see the cat near your car, fire to miss it. Remember to aim high and to the side - BBs from weak spring BB guns will drop 3-5 feet for the first 100 feet. Make sure you aim so you don't hit cars, people, or neighbors houses. After the first few times you do this you don't even have to have BBs in the gun - the Pfffftt sound alone will make the cat run...

8. Get your own cat and train it to guard you Boxster. You'll know it's doing it's job when you hear a lot of hissing...

NOT recommended:

Anti-freeze - you REALLY shouldn't do this - it's one extremely horrible way to kill a cat (or any other creature that drinks it). A slow, horrible, painful death. Tuna isn't necessary, cats will lap it up regardless because it (apparently) tastes sweet and very good to them. This is also probably illegal in most places.

Bazooka - for obvious reasons.

Mark_T 06-04-2014 01:29 PM

Not sure why JayG feels required to mock references to wild animals in urban settings. I live in a city and right around my property I have rabbits, muskrats, racoons, foxes, woodchucks, squirrels, skunks, beavers, and deer. It is not unusual for a bear, coyote, or moose to wander in to the city as well. No samsquanches yet.

Cats are the least of my worries, but if I was having cat problems I'd be with the trap 'em, bag 'em, and drown 'em group. Got no use for cats.

The Radium King 06-04-2014 02:49 PM

I got no use for people, and bad drivers have ruined more cars than cats ever have. the problem is, if I tried the 'trap, bag and drown" approach on a few of my less likeable neighbours, they'd call me a psychopath and lock me up.

hold it ... they do the same thing if you do that to animals ...

JayG 06-04-2014 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark_T (Post 404024)
Not sure why JayG feels required to mock references to wild animals in urban settings. I live in a city and right around my property I have rabbits, muskrats, racoons, foxes, woodchucks, squirrels, skunks, beavers, and deer. It is not unusual for a bear, coyote, or moose to wander in to the city as well. No samsquanches yet.

Cats are the least of my worries, but if I was having cat problems I'd be with the trap 'em, bag 'em, and drown 'em group. Got no use for cats.

I was mocking the comments made by another. (making a joke).

I wasn't the one that made a stupid statement about cats hunting wild game. I seriously doubt a house cat (or even a feral one) would hunt wild game. Mice, rats, small birds and of course 986 soft tops definitely, but wild game, don't think so

Seriously, you have all those animals in an urban area? Urban areas generally are the inner city or at least the highly built up areas of a city. They typically are not large plots of land with lots of space around them.

I have not been to Winnipeg, so I can't know for sure, but you really have moose, deer and bear wandering around the urban part of the city? Maybe in the suburbs and outlying areas, but in the city?

I live in the suburbs of San Diego and we do see coyote in the street every now and then, but I live very near a large park are that is completely undeveloped. Hell we see skunks, raccoons, and lots of rattlesnakes and other forest creatures in the trails, but its a rare site in the neighborhood. We even had a mountain lion spotted the other day. Now that kitty could do some serious damage to a car.

Hell, BigJake's schoolmate caused far more damage and no one is advocating shooting, poisoning or otherwise harming him

I guess you like mice and rats, because cats are really good for keeping them away.

I'm not some kind of PETA wacko (not to insult PETA people), but anyone that advocates cruelty to animals should have the same done to them.

For crying out loud, its a cat and there are lots of ways to protect you car that don't involve violence and childish behavior

Jamesp 06-04-2014 04:38 PM

Don't shoot, poison, trap, mangle, or otherwise permanently injure the cat for just being a cat. That would be bad. So there has been quite a few suggesting cat mangling I think, just to get the goat of the cat lovers. Worked like a charm too. Perhaps one of the forum members talented in electronics (you know who you are) can create an ultrasonic cat scatterer that runs on its own rechargeable battery when the car is off, and charges itself when the car is on. Mount it inside and it spits out 55 Khz at 120 db aimed at the roof for say 12 hours on a charge. Make any cat or dog uncomfortable. Seems simple enough, get it patented, get rich, and we can say we knew you when.

Ian c 06-04-2014 04:46 PM

How about simply turning your ball cap backwards and running over it in your lifted 150 ?

cfos 06-04-2014 04:51 PM

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Ian c 06-04-2014 04:55 PM

Beyoncé ...

Mark_T 06-04-2014 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JayG (Post 404051)
Seriously, you have all those animals in an urban area? Urban areas generally are the inner city or at least the highly built up areas of a city. They typically are not large plots of land with lots of space around them.

If you do a quick satellite view of Winnipeg you will see that two main rivers join right in the center of the city The banks of these rivers have been maintained, for the most part, as a wide natural greenspace, and so the animals tend to come up the river bank not realizing they are entering a city.

Moose and bear don't actually show up that often - usually about two bears a year and maybe a moose every two or three years. All the rest of the critters are commonly seen in the city. The beavers and racoons are real pests. There is a herd of about 300 deer living in a large forest preserve in the southern part of the city.

Mark_T 06-04-2014 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayG (Post 404051)
Hell, BigJake's schoolmate caused far more damage and no one is advocating shooting, poisoning or otherwise harming him

I did. I thought he should have been shot, pissed on, and kicked in the nuts. :D

Dragonwind 06-04-2014 06:09 PM

I can't tell you how angry I am knowing anyone here would burn an animal. Cats are more than animals to me. Humans less so every day. I am glad I'm not the only one here to give a voice to those with none.

BirdDog 06-04-2014 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamesp (Post 404053)
Perhaps one of the forum members talented in electronics (you know who you are) can create an ultrasonic cat scatterer that runs on its own rechargeable battery when the car is off, and charges itself when the car is on. Mount it inside and it spits out 55 Khz at 120 db aimed at the roof for say 12 hours on a charge. Make any cat or dog uncomfortable. Seems simple enough, get it patented, get rich, and we can say we knew you when.

That sounds like a great idea! Call it "The Ragtop Protector" or some such. Use a kickstarter project to fund it. "Protect your investment! Great for any convertible car! Simple cigarette lighter installation. Low battery drain - runs for weeks!"

Another idea might be to have something you tack to the headliner when the top is up (white strip with a sliver of Velcro at the top) that hangs down over the console. When the cat walks up on the roof and shakes the top that might set off the alarm system (via the alien eyes motion sensor).

JayG 06-04-2014 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark_T (Post 404078)
If you do a quick satellite view of Winnipeg you will see that two main rivers join right in the center of the city The banks of these rivers have been maintained, for the most part, as a wide natural greenspace, and so the animals tend to come up the river bank not realizing they are entering a city.

Moose and bear don't actually show up that often - usually about two bears a year and maybe a moose every two or three years. All the rest of the critters are commonly seen in the city. The beavers and racoons are real pests. There is a herd of about 300 deer living in a large forest preserve in the southern part of the city.

sounds beautiful. I will have to come visit
Something else for the bucket list

jb92563 06-04-2014 08:15 PM

The cat cure is simply to bring mother nature to the rescue.

Bring in animals that consider cats prey and let nature takes its course.

There is a couple of big owls in my neighborhood that leave droppings full of cat claws.

Kittens disappear by the dozen weekly.

However, sometimes the cure is even worse, as I have had talon claws puncture my boat cover during the nightly chaos.

I keep the Boxster garaged.

JayG 06-04-2014 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jb92563 (Post 404108)
The cat cure is simply to bring mother nature to the rescue.

Bring in animals that consider cats prey and let nature takes its course.

There is a couple of big owls in my neighborhood that leave droppings full of cat claws.

Kittens disappear by the dozen weekly.

However, sometimes the cure is even worse, as I have had talon claws puncture my boat cover during the nightly chaos.

I keep the Boxster garaged.

They did something like that in the Philippines or Guam. It was a snake and mongoose. One of then was out of control and the other hunted it as prey. They brought one in to control the other I don't remember which was which, but the end result was they fixed one problem and now have another.

kls 06-04-2014 08:28 PM

I like squirrels

This is the best comment on this thread. Cracked me up.

I wasn't the one that made a stupid statement about cats hunting wild game. I seriously doubt a house cat (or even a feral one) would hunt wild game. Mice, rats, small birds and of course 986 soft tops definitely, but wild game, don't think so

Not such a stupid statement. You are apparently just arguing about the definition of wild game. I doubt your cat's going to bag a deer or an elk, but they take a lot more songbirds than rodents in my neighborhood.

kls 06-04-2014 08:29 PM

sorry - duplicate


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